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Southern California Club Xterra => SCCX General Discussion => Topic started by: henrypro11 on May 07, 2012, 07:43:36 PM

Title: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 07, 2012, 07:43:36 PM
http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f41/baja-california-trip-79956/#post1103584

Hey Guys Im new here from Club Frontier. Will be owning an X hopefully in the upcoming weeks. Anyways I want to plan a Baja California trip and am just stiring up intrest and the general month. the above link is from Club Frontier. Hope to get intrest as it seems to be a life journey down there.

also here is a link of a FJ on the trip.
http://www.lastgreatroadtrip.com/baja-off-road-adventure/baja-adventure-part-3-so-this-is-baja/

thanks.

UPDATE 5/9/12

November is out because its Baja 1000 Time

LIST: Club Frontier and SCCX
Intrested /confirm/tentative
1)HenryPro11
2)LAONETIME-intrested
3)crewmaxxis-tentative
4)ryan-intrested
5)mesoGlea-?
6)ozevega-?
7)Justin123560- intrested
8)Blackx  aka Jeff (SCCX)- intrested but doubtful
9)
10)
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Blackx on May 07, 2012, 08:15:43 PM
I like to go 1-2 times a year and already have a trip planned. Maybe I can make the next one.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 07, 2012, 09:21:12 PM
I like to go 1-2 times a year and already have a trip planned. Maybe I can make the next one.

Hey Jeff thank you for starting interest. As you can see this won't be until august-november.
Any insite you have would be greatly apreaiated. Pm or email me

Hope more people like the idea. I've only done it once but in a ford windstar, strictly highway, no offroad and 50mph;/
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Blackx on May 08, 2012, 11:07:22 AM
How far do you want to go down?  Good destinations on the Sea of Cortez are Bahia De Los Angeles, Mulege, and Loreto.  You can do almost entirely dirt roads going down that side, but it is remote and a desert so be prepared.  The Pacific side is more populated and  much windier and colder so it's not as enjoyable to camp in my opinion.   
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 08, 2012, 01:36:28 PM
How far do you want to go down?  Good destinations on the Sea of Cortez are Bahia De Los Angeles, Mulege, and Loreto.  You can do almost entirely dirt roads going down that side, but it is remote and a desert so be prepared.  The Pacific side is more populated and  much windier and colder so it's not as enjoyable to camp in my opinion.   

no lower than Bahaia De los Angeles, due to the fact that tis is a 3 day 2 night deal.
from san Diego its 424 mi, 8 hours 5 mins taking the Carr Federal 1/Mexico. this distance would be ideal to allow enough time for roaming around, trail rides, maybe some bring toys, camping etc. Im thinking this would be a perfect location. Meet spot somewhere in San Diego to Bahaia De Los Angeles. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 08, 2012, 06:55:46 PM
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n500/henrypro11/bajanorth.jpg)

what do you guys think about this. ;D Still up in the air but, comments, changes, concerns, questions ???
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Orange X on May 08, 2012, 06:56:12 PM
My avatar pic is me hooked up on a Yellowtail in Bahia De los Angeles. Been down there many times. If you leave early in morning it only takes about 9 hours to get there. The best place for Wheeling down there (IMO) is in El Rosario witch is the half way point. Thats where the Baja 5000 runs also.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 08, 2012, 08:32:59 PM
My avatar pic is me hooked up on a Yellowtail in Bahia De los Angeles. Been down there many times. If you leave early in morning it only takes about 9 hours to get there. The best place for Wheeling down there (IMO) is in El Rosario witch is the half way point. Thats where the Baja 5000 runs also.

totkid760- thanks for the comment, looks like a nice place to hangout for a day.

also found this pdf link: its a DISCOVER BAJA PDF
http://www.discoverbajacalifornia.com/files/guia/guia.pdf
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Blackx on May 08, 2012, 08:50:08 PM
Looks like a good plan to me.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 08, 2012, 11:27:30 PM
Looks like a good plan to me.

im gonna start winding down dates. november is out because of the baja 1000.  Im leaning towards october for weather purposes. All in favor.?
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Blackx on May 09, 2012, 07:55:10 AM
I can't do another trip at that time, but keep me posted for the next one.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Ghost65 on May 09, 2012, 02:56:20 PM
October I am in Big Bear for a Club event, CANVAZ II...then November on vacation with my son.

Honestly, travel in Mexico at this point for me is a bit sketchy.  But with a group might be okay.  I used to travel a lot in Baja California during the 70's and 80's, but as the violence and cartel activity ramped up, my desire waned.  Just my .02.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 09, 2012, 03:21:27 PM
October I am in Big Bear for a Club event, CANVAZ II...then November on vacation with my son.

Honestly, travel in Mexico at this point for me is a bit sketchy.  But with a group might be okay.  I used to travel a lot in Baja California during the 70's and 80's, but as the violence and cartel activity ramped up, my desire waned.  Just my .02.

thanks for the input John.I hear the stories too but I went to tour a friends winery and had no problems. There are some places to avoid however but with a group and proper precautions I believe it to be a great trip. Could you possibly make room in october, i enjoyed your leadership style. Still in the air as far as date but im picking up intrest in CF with 8 total so far. let me know.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 09, 2012, 03:23:20 PM
My avatar pic is me hooked up on a Yellowtail in Bahia De los Angeles. Been down there many times.

would you be intrested in going if the date is right ?
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Orange X on May 09, 2012, 05:41:06 PM
I'll be down there July 20-27 fishing with 13 other friends. I don't think I would be able to go again this year. Just to far to go for a coupe of days. Trust me it's a long ride. Check out www.bahiadelosangeles.info there is some good info and pics on there.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Oz on May 09, 2012, 07:24:50 PM
thanks for the input John.I hear the stories too but I went to tour a friends winery and had no problems. There are some places to avoid however but with a group and proper precautions I believe it to be a great trip. Could you possibly make room in october, i enjoyed your leadership style. Still in the air as far as date but im picking up intrest in CF with 8 total so far. let me know.

Travel Warning U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Bureau of Consular Affairs
Mexico

February 08, 2012

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5665.html

Clipping: Carjacking and highway robbery are serious problems in many parts of the border region and U.S. citizens have been murdered in such incidents.  Most victims who complied with carjackers at these checkpoints have reported that they were not physically harmed.  Incidents have occurred during the day and at night, and carjackers have used a variety of techniques, including bumping/moving vehicles to force them to stop and running vehicles off the road at high speeds.  There are some indications that criminals have particularly targeted newer and larger vehicles, especially dark-colored SUVs.  However, victims driving a variety of vehicles, from late model SUVs to old sedans have also been targeted.  While violent incidents have occurred at all hours of the day and night on both modern toll ("cuotas") highways and on secondary roads, they have occurred most frequently at night and on isolated roads.  To reduce risk, we strongly urge you to travel between cities throughout Mexico only during daylight hours, to avoid isolated roads, and to use toll roads whenever possible.  The Mexican government has deployed federal police and military personnel throughout the country as part of its efforts to combat the TCOs.  U.S. citizens traveling on Mexican roads and highways may encounter government checkpoints, which are often staffed by military personnel or law enforcement personnel.  TCOs have erected their own unauthorized checkpoints, and killed or abducted motorists who have failed to stop at them.  You should cooperate at all checkpoints.

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As John did, I used to frequent Baja a lot and used to take my son down there for surf, lobsters and fireworks. I  even have a friend who has a beach house in Bahia Santa Maria (30 miles south of San Felipe).

I won't go down there ever again. You may want to read this book if you decide to go down:

http://www.austinchronicle.com/books/2010-04-02/987874/  I have a copy if anyone want to borrow it

Vaya Con Dios boys, be careful and have a safe trip.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Blackx on May 10, 2012, 10:43:27 AM
I certainly understand being wary of going down there. 

Keep in mind the travel warning doesn't include Baja California Sur.  And as far as Baja California itself, according to Baja Insider in 2010 more than TWO THIRDS of US cities were more deadly than Tijuana in murders per 100K.  Tijuana, the most dangerous place in Baja if you will, had a murder rate of 7.2 per 100K. New Orleans, Baltimore, Detroit and Washington DC was all in excess of 15 murders per 100K.  I do a lot of work in Baltimore and D.C. and have witnessed more incidents of crime there than anywhere else.

All that said, mind your P's and Q's, don't go looking for trouble or bring attention to yourself and you'll have a great time.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 11, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
Most of the discussions have been about how safe or not Baja is. People, please try and stay on topic, my original plan was to have a Baja trip this year. I'm trying to get a date in mind that majority would agree on. How many would be willing for an early next year trip? Please comment or pm me. Also in terms of Baja safety, it's really basic, don't flash expensive stuff out in public, be in by night fall, stay with group. It's exactly the same as living in south central LA and other bad neighborhoods here in the US. One must always walk with caution. That being said, enough with safety posts, but let's try and stay on trac here. Baja is a beautiful place and is probably unknown to the vast majority of us.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: Ghost65 on May 12, 2012, 06:07:25 AM
thanks for the input John.I hear the stories too but I went to tour a friends winery and had no problems. There are some places to avoid however but with a group and proper precautions I believe it to be a great trip. Could you possibly make room in october, i enjoyed your leadership style. Still in the air as far as date but im picking up intrest in CF with 8 total so far. let me know.

Thanks Enrique, lets see how my calendar looks for me after GoneMoab.  I am more than likely out in October, as I have committed to planning/attending the annual CANVAZ event, being held this year in Big Bear.  Would love to have you attend that if this date/group/run falls through, but more on that later.

There is still a lot of time between now and then, so let's just see.
Title: Re: BAJA CALIFORNIA
Post by: henrypro11 on May 13, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
Thanks Enrique, lets see how my calendar looks for me after GoneMoab.  I am more than likely out in October, as I have committed to planning/attending the annual CANVAZ event, being held this year in Big Bear.  Would love to have you attend that if this date/group/run falls through, but more on that later.

There is still a lot of time between now and then, so let's just see.

could you pm me some info on this? Yes, still a long time till then