Southern California Club Xterra
Southern California Club Xterra => SCCX General Discussion => Topic started by: BikersCage on January 19, 2013, 06:36:45 PM
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I am going to start soliciting the help now so we can see who will be showing up and who can help. Last time my stuff showed up too late so we didnt get to work on my truck.
I am looking to do this within the next 30 days. Justin (Lava) offered up his place if he is free one weekend, but we dont have to use his. Just trying to see if there is interest. Sometime soon.
Currently I need to do the following:
Remove back leafs
- Install Full Dakar Set (Have shims, new ubolts)
Replace Back Shocks
Replace UCA
Replace Coilovers - With extended length TJM. (Pre completed just need to be swapped out)
Lets see who wants to come hang out and we can try to set a date as more people answer up. If you have something you need done lets try to get that completed to.
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I'm willing to help out as long as I am available. I also have a single AAL that I want to install. Although, depending on what parts I can sell, the single AAL might end up being a full deaver 10 leaf pack and piggy back shocks or emulsions.
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I wish i would of known you were going full titan earlier. I would of bought those total chaos uca... but i already have mine from nisstech now
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Ok, so Justin is busy for the next month and half and wont be able to support a full day in his place.
So full edit down here! Have placed the date for 9th of Feb Sat. The weekend after the super bowl. I will be doing this at my place which is down by Kearney Mesa High school.
San Diego ORW is up the street so if im missing anything minor i should be able to grab it up there.
Ill be sure to stock up on some beers and get the wife to bake some fat goodies for anyone who shows up. You dont even need to turn a wrench just point and grunt so I know that im doing is right.
Already will have me and my brother there.
Possible Shows:
MagicBob007
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it looks like i am available that day. i'll stop by to lend a hand and drink some beer.
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Good to know, ill make sure to have plenty of beer! ill buy once more people say what they are showing up so i can buy what people like
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I might be able to swing by for a bit, but I won't know for sure until a bit closer. Wouldn't mind lending a hand, and I am great at drinking beer and pointing and grunting :D
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Yeah so far there is about 4 people coming that are positive and about 3 who are maybe. So we got a good little group together. I will have to put the bikes in front of the house and park my wifes car on the street so there is plenty of room. Others are welcome to do some tuning here too. I have a flat area in front of my garage that will fit two other rigs, and then two behind it on not perfectly flat area before i hit the street. Which is not a busy street at all I can get like 4 more rigs out there before we are not parking directly in front of my house.
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Yeah so far there is about 4 people coming that are positive and about 3 who are maybe. So we got a good little group together. I will have to put the bikes in front of the house and park my wifes car on the street so there is plenty of room. Others are welcome to do some tuning here too. I have a flat area in front of my garage that will fit two other rigs, and then two behind it on not perfectly flat area before i hit the street. Which is not a busy street at all I can get like 4 more rigs out there before we are not parking directly in front of my house.
Hmm. Maybe i should get a deaver 10 pack so I can do an install on this mod day. Decisions decisions. ???
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I should be able to make it no problem. I can bring some jack stands and any tools you think you might need (assuming I have them) like a 1/2 drive socket set, torque wrench, and long breaker bar)
I have never done these parts before I am pretty handy just figuring stuff out so im sure worst case, we can get something done.
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I dont have a torque wrench, but does everyone actually torque to specs?
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Its just one of those steps that lets you kow you are doing it right. And for piece of mind.
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I dont have a torque wrench, but does everyone actually torque to specs?
Idk maybe...its not going to hurt anything to do it right
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Well i completely agree anything suspension on my bike i make sure a shop does it so its to spec. Its super dangerous to mess with a bike out of spec because thats your life in your hands.
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I dont have a torque wrench, but does everyone actually torque to specs?
You should at least have ballpark figures for torque specs on suspension components. Torque wrenches are fairly cheap insurance, around $80 for a nice adjustable one, and you can also just grab one at HF if price is a major concern.
Here is a good list put together by MUZIKMAN, former owner of TNX:
These numbers were pulled manually from the 2005 Nissan Xterra Service Manual (revision Feb. 2006). There could be errors in translation, typos, mis-reading of the manual, brain farts, etc. Please double checked these torque specs with Nissan. I take no responsibility if you use these specs and something falls off.
I will add to this over time. If there is anything I am missing or someone sees that is wrong, please let me know and 'll add it.
Front Suspension:
Swaybar Mounting Brackets: 96 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
Swaybar Connecting Rod (Both Ends): 62 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [FSU-5]
LCA Bump Stop: 14 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
LCA Cam Bolt: 100 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
LCA Ball Joint Nut: 70 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [FSU-5]
UCA Mount Bolt: 94 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
UCA Ball Joint Nut: 58 ft-lbs (Replace Cotter Pin After Removal) [FSU-5]
Lower Shock Mount: 155 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
Upper Shock Mount Nuts: 22 ft-lbs (there are 3 nuts) [FSU-5]
Shock Upper Spring Seat Nut: 30 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [FSU-5]
Wheel Hub Mounting Bolts: 44 ft-lbs (there are 4 bolts) (Replace After Removal) [FAX-5]
Center Hub Nut: 101 ft-lbs (Replace Cotter Pin After Removal) [FSU-5]
Rear Suspension:
Bump Stop: 14 ft-lbs [RSU-5]
Swaybar Mount: 36 ft-lbs [RSU-5]
Swaybar Connecting Rod Nuts: 32 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RSU-5]
Upper Shock Mount Nut: 33 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RSU-5]
Lower Shock Mount: 148 ft-lbs [RSU-5]
Spring Shackle: 77 ft-lbs (Both upper and lower) [RSU-5]
Front Leaf Spring Mount Bolt: 84 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RSU-5]
Axle U-Bolt Nuts: 53 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RSU-5]
Dynamic Dampener (weight): 14 ft-lbs
Front Diff (R180):
Diff Mounting Bolts: 135 ft-lbs [FFD-14]
Crossmember Bolts: 96 ft-lbs [FFD-14]
Pinion Nut: 138-216 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [FFD-16]
Ring Gear Bolts: 43 ft-lbs [FFD-16]
Carrier Bearing Journal: 69 ft-lbs [FFD-16]
Diff Cover Bolts: 30 ft-lbs [FFD-16]
Rear Diff (C200):
Pinion Nut: 107-238 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RFD-15]
Ring Gear Bolts: 58 ft-lbs [RFD-15]
Carrier Bearing Journal: 69 ft-lbs [RFD-15]
Axle Bearing/Hub Nuts: 49 ft-lbs (there are 4 nuts) [RAX-7]
Diff Cover Bolts: 36 ft-lbs [RFD-15]
Rear Diff (M225 w/o Locker):
Pinion Nut: 220-500 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RFD-50]
Ring Gear Bolts: 133 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RFD-50]
Carrier Bearing Journal: 80 ft-lbs [RFD-50]
Axle Bearing/Hub Nuts: 89 ft-lbs (there are 4 nuts) [RFD-50]
Diff Breather: 31 in-lbs [RFD-50]
Diff Cover Bolts: 31 ft-lbs
Rear Diff (M225 w/ Locker):
Pinion Nut: 220-500 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RFD-123]
Ring Gear Bolts: 135 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RFD-123]
Carrier Bearing Journal: 80 ft-lbs [RFD-123]
Axle Bearing/Hub Nuts: 87 ft-lbs (there are 4 nuts) [RFD-123]
Diff Breather: 31 in-lbs [RFD-123]
Locker Wire Harness: 89 in-lbs [RFD-123]
Diff Cover Bolts: 31 ft-lbs [RFD-123]
Front Driveshaft:
Flange Nut: 44 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [PR-5]
Rear Driveshaft (Model 2S1330):
Flange Nut: 71 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [PR-10]
Rear Driveshaft (Model 2S1330-BJ100):
Flange Nut: 41 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [PR-11]
Front Brakes:
Slide Pin Bolt: 32 ft-lbs [BR-22]
Torque Member Bolt: 136 ft-lbs [BR-22]
Union Bolt: 24 ft-lbs [BR-22]
Bleed Valve: 69 in-lbs [BR-22]
Rear Brakes:
Slide Pin Bolt: 19 ft-lbs [BR-28]
Torque Member Bolt: 76 ft-lbs [BR-28]
Brake Line: 19 ft-lbs [BR-28]
Bleed Valve: 69 in-lbs [BR-22]
Maintenance:
Engine Oil Drain Plug: 25 ft-lbs (Replace Crush Washer)
Transfer Case Fill Plug: 26 ft-lbs (Replace Gasket)
Transfer Case Drain Plug: 26 ft-lbs (Replace Gasket)
Front Differential Fill Plug: 25 ft-lbs (Replace Gasket)
Front Differential Drain Plug: 25 ft-lbs (Replace Gasket)
Rear Differential Fill Plug (C200): 36 ft-lbs (Apply Silicon RTV or Equal)
Rear Differential Drain Plug (C200): 36 ft-lbs (Replace Gasket)
Rear Differential Fill Plug (M226) (with or without Locker): 25 ft-lbs (Apply Silicon RTV or Equal)
Rear Differential Drain Plug (M226) (with or without Locker): 20 ft-lbs (Apply Silicon RTV or Equal)
Manual Transmission Fill Plug: 25 ft-lbs (Replace Gasket)
Manual Transmission Drain Plug: 25 ft-lbs (Replace Gasket)
Automatic Transmission Drain Plug: 25 ft-lbs (Replace Gasket) (both 2wd and 4wd models)
Engine:
Intake Manifold: Bolts: First Pass: 5 ft-lb Second Pass: 21 ft-lb
Intake Manifold: Studs: 8 ft-lb (If removed from Engine Block)
Intake Manifold: Bolt Pattern: Engine Front: 5, 3, 2, 7
Intake Manifold: Bolt Pattern: Engine Front: 8, 1, 4, 6
Misc:
Wheel Lug Nuts: 98 ft-lbs
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Thanks for the input all.
This is still on as of right now for Saturday.
Need final confirmations from people so i can go buy a few items if i need them (jack stands) Torque wrench!
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You're going to need jack stands. You might as well buy them. A pair of 3 ton stands can be bought fairly cheap at Harbor Freight. You should also have a decent torque wrench. Craftsman 1/2" or 3/8" drive will run you between 70-80 at Sears or $20 at harbor freight. Someone may be able to bring one by but it's best to have your own as well. You'll need it at some point.
I'm gonna be there on Saturday to install a single leaf to my leaf pack.
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There is one 15 min up the street in Mirimar, Ill just bite the bullet and get the stands and a torque wrench. I was just wanting to spend my extra cash on other stuff this month. Guess the yearly fishing liscense will wait again!
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I am actually going out of town this weekend for work so I wont be able to help. Its good you buy the jack stands. If you dont already have a jack there is this craftsman set and I think its a good deal.
http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-3-ton-floor-jack-stands-and/p-00950188000P?&prdNo=20&blockNo=20&blockType=L20
Its a 3 ton set. The creeper is crappy, but the jackstands alone are $30, so even without it 70 bucks for a good rolling 3 ton jack is decent. They are the normal car height stands, but I also bought a set of these so I have 4:
http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-3-ton-high-lift-jack-stands/p-00950159000P?&prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=L1
Now I am noticing that they have a 4 ton set of jack stands for the same price. They might be shorties though:
http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-professional-4-ton-jack-stands-one/p-00950163000P?&prdNo=10&blockNo=10&blockType=L10
As far a torque wrench, don't cheap out on that. It's sort of an oxymoron to buy a cheap torque wrench because the whole point of the thing is to be accurate, and obviously with cost goes accuracy and durability over time.
Get a craftsman and forget HF.
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Got the stands and torque wrench and accessories tonight.
PB blasting for the next 3 days.
32 blue moons (if they last... i dont normally drink during the week)
Even if no one else shows up im attemping this sat (sun if i have to).
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What time?
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I am going to have my truck up on the stands by 10 and start working. Whenever everyone else wants to show up is fine. I will likely order a few pizzas around noon for those who show up... Pizza and beer around noon!
Again im gonna start early getting things off and working. I dont believe i have to cut anything and i dont really want to cut the UCA bolt on the drivers side so im gonna start early. Like i said i just replaced the whole suspension (minus leafs and coil up front) within 2k miles. I am just going with an actual off roading suspension now.
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For anyone else that wants to swing by ill post my address up here but not on the new x site.
7502 Radenz Ave
San Diego 92111
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I can stop by. I'll bring stands, sawsall for the ubolts and I've got a spare UCA bolt if you end up wanting to cut it
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Front Suspension:
Swaybar Mounting Brackets: 96 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
Swaybar Connecting Rod (Both Ends): 62 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [FSU-5]
LCA Bump Stop: 14 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
LCA Cam Bolt: 100 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
LCA Ball Joint Nut: 70 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [FSU-5]
UCA Mount Bolt: 94 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
UCA Ball Joint Nut: 58 ft-lbs (Replace Cotter Pin After Removal) [FSU-5]
Lower Shock Mount: 155 ft-lbs [FSU-5]
Upper Shock Mount Nuts: 22 ft-lbs (there are 3 nuts) [FSU-5]
Shock Upper Spring Seat Nut: 30 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [FSU-5]
Wheel Hub Mounting Bolts: 44 ft-lbs (there are 4 bolts) (Replace After Removal) [FAX-5]
Center Hub Nut: 101 ft-lbs (Replace Cotter Pin After Removal) [FSU-5]
Rear Suspension:
Bump Stop: 14 ft-lbs [RSU-5]
Swaybar Mount: 36 ft-lbs [RSU-5]
Swaybar Connecting Rod Nuts: 32 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RSU-5]
Upper Shock Mount Nut: 33 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RSU-5]
Lower Shock Mount: 148 ft-lbs [RSU-5]
Spring Shackle: 77 ft-lbs (Both upper and lower) [RSU-5]
Front Leaf Spring Mount Bolt: 84 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RSU-5]
Axle U-Bolt Nuts: 53 ft-lbs (Replace After Removal) [RSU-5]
Dynamic Dampener (weight): 14 ft-lbs
These replace after removal items. Does anyone know how easy these are to get. ORW is down the street and the nissan dealership near that If i have to make a run should i be able to buy from there?
I am only doing a few that are listed there.
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Honestly no one replaces any of those bolts or nuts while doing a lift unless you strip them out. Nissan may have some of those but honestly they are the most expensive option. Marshalls hardware off miramar Rd is open until 12:30 on Saturdays and they have almost anything you would need except ubolts.
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Cool, i already have the ubolts i ordered them with the dakars! Then i will just re-use!
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Forgot to ask if anyone who is stopping by can bring a floor jack. Ill already have the x up on stands using the stock tire replacement jack, but ill need the floor jack to replace the leafs...
If no one can bring one ill go pick one up in the morning.
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I'll bring one
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Thanks paul for the immense amount of help. I am currently taking a break from installing the back. Got the first half. Just need to complete the second. Front is in and all wrapped up.
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BC...post up some before and after pics when you have time. :)
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Before:
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After:
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(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526796_10200575693853605_581189_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/537799_10200575695453645_1718386353_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72986_10200575697293691_1661707259_n.jpg)
Need to get 33's and an alignment now that the tires look so small!
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Pictures dont give it justice, i can feel the change in it. I didnt measure, but just getting in and driving i can tell. Next is the firestone lifetime alignment and then tires sometime in the next two months after we get taxes back officially.
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Looking good, Rich. Glad to help out.
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Nice job.
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Looks great, thanks for posting up pictures.
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Very nice.