Southern California Club Xterra
Southern California Club Xterra => SCCX General Discussion => Topic started by: BikersCage on July 15, 2013, 09:59:38 PM
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Hey guys,
So i just got an email from my wife stating she had to have the truck towed from Pasadena to San Diego. Luckily we have some good friends who's AAA covered it.
Onto the real reason why I am here. It sounds like a clutch issue.
Before I left i had a few times some of the gears slip at 4k RPM's. I was mostly having problems in second and third. It easily passed by them, but as i feared it got worse and she totally lost power when returning home from Sacramento. She said she had no problems with it up there, but after she had got through the mountains south it just finally gave up. She tried to start it again and it started, but when she went to put it in gear it went to 5k rpms and didnt move then started smelling it.
It sounds like a clutch issue to me.
If so since I am not home and cannot devote a weekend to trying to replace it myself. Does anyone know someone in San Diego that isnt going to screw me to bad on pricing. I fear now replacing the clutch is going to kill my tire carrier dreams. I want the truck ready when I get back to san diego so im not just goint to have it sit there. Any help would be awesome, i dont want to send it to the dealer and have them eat my bank account.
Thanks
Rich
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I can't speak for install but if you want a deal on a JWT clutch I can help with that.
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It is dfinitely your clutch. I've always felt that, if you have to replace it, you might as well upgrade it and not ever have to worry about it. Spend some extra cash on a good performance clutch like ACT, ClutchMasters, Fidanza, or Centerforce. They simply last longer and grip better.
I have the Centerforce Dual Friction competitio kit which includes the clutch disk, pressure plate, throwout bearing and pilot bearing. Retails for $500, I paid $175 on an ebay auction simply because it had damaged packaging.
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Expect to pay $150-$200 to remove it, and the same to replace it. Any tranny shop can do it. So, unfortunately, it will eat up your funds for the tire carrier.
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Well,
It looks like i am going to go with a centerforce. Apparently ive been getting at least more out of it than most people. I have used that clutch to tow a compact car across country once and then to tow a Uhal across country twice. Plus it still got about 50k on it. The one before that I had towed a 23' jetboat for 2 summers and got 40k on it.
So not too bad compared to those people not doing anything and getting 10k out of the stock ones.
I just hope the flywheel is not gone also. Now moving my tire carrier back till around christmas timeframe... as long as that flywheel isnt gone.
Thanks for the input.
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Yeah, I've been trying to get a tire carrier for 3 yrs now. One thing or another...
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Ugh, so they quoted my wife at 100 an hour for 7to 8 hours. If its going to cost me around 2k i may just have it sitting there for me to do when I get home.
Does anyone know someone who has time on their hands and wants to earn a couple hundred bucks! lol I just dont want to pay close to 1k in labor costs i was expecting something like 400-500 but 800 is about double.
Anywho as of now the wife is calling around to find out if we can get a better price.
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Well sad to say but she will most likely get quoted high everywhere, not too many honest shops out there. Where are you located?
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Ugh, so they quoted my wife at 100 an hour for 7to 8 hours. If its going to cost me around 2k i may just have it sitting there for me to do when I get home.
Does anyone know someone who has time on their hands and wants to earn a couple hundred bucks! lol I just dont want to pay close to 1k in labor costs i was expecting something like 400-500 but 800 is about double.
Anywho as of now the wife is calling around to find out if we can get a better price.
Hey Rich,
You're well aware of my mechanical skills, but if there's anything I can do to help save you a few bucks please let me know!!!
-Christiaan
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The truck is at my house right now.
We live in Mira Mesa area in San Diego. So its right above Fashion Valley in between the 805 and the 5.
She is still trying other shops. Then she is going to try the local community college. They sometimes will do projects like this for free as long as we provide parts.
*shrug*
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Well I live in Mira mesa, we could maybe get a couple people together and do a mod day. I'll admit I've never done a clutch in an Xterra but I've got plenty o experience with building cars.
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Well the wife still has to call a few people. I am not home till october.
Im sure if you guys are helping us out my wife wouldnt mind hosting you guys and doing lunch and goodies, but like i said im not home to help till october. I should have all the tools to do it, except maybe something to rest it all on or anything like that. I just have the floor jack.
Let me know if you have any ideas. She would have to tow it to get it anywhere else.
Still waiting for her to call a few more shops and the community college.
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Oh I've got all the tools, and plenty o experience. A couple extra hands is always helpful and a good learning experience for others. Ill call around a couple shops i know of and see what they quote me. Keep us updated, I'm available most weekends.
Also I don't know if you have AAA or not but if your wife needs towing to a shop I have towing through my ins, they will tow anything as long as I'm present.
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I would love to help in anyway I can....please keep me updated
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NO, DON'T HAVE HER CALL!! Shops will high-ball her. Unfortunately, its a guys world. A guy has to do it. That first quote she got is very high. $500-600 sounds about right. You could organize a MOD DAY, save money and have lots of help available.
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Well she has already called.
I need the truck for a vacation as soon as I get back. So if its waiting on me for a mod day id have to do it within the first week of me being home. If not I may just bite the bullet and pay for it.
I am making a little extra money out here anyways.
No we dont currently have AAA, although we may be getting it soon. A few of our friends got it from north of LA to San diego using their AAA. So for those just in case situations it seems to be killer.
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No need to wait on your return for a mod day, I'm sure a few of us could get together and take care of it at your house.
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I'm in with Jordan, I've done a few clutches, just not on an X yet. When my clutch goes, we can teach you how to do one then :D
IMHO don't go 'super' heavy duty, It just wears out your left leg. A good heavy duty kit is the way to go.
Get one ordered! We will come.
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If you havent ordered a clutch, I can get one from JWT for wholesale, I'll call them and let you know what that price would be.
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Alright, all other places quoted her as much or more.
So i think it may be going with you guys. Jordan let me know how much a JWT would be, as of now i was thinking centerforce, but thats 650 to my door.
Only question is flywheel. I am hoping its not damaged but what do you guys think i should do about that? Does anyone know how to resurface one?
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JWT flywheel :-) don't really know til you get at the flywheel to see the condition. But they can be resurfaced, just like brake rotors.
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Do you think it would just be smarter to go with JWT on Clutch and Flywheel? That would cut the cost about 200 from the Centerforce.
Looking for opinions here. I cant do a whole lot of research it takes me about 15 min just to load SCCX lol. Internet connectivity blows on these small ships.
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Like Jordan said, wait and see on the flywheel. Unless it's toasted, you can just resurface it. You may not need to anything :-\
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Well, would it not be smarter to buy them both so when the guys go to do the work its there? In case its that bad. It would be a pain to just have to pull everything back out if it is? I dunno let me know. Id rather it be a one shot deal.
I can always get the wife to send back within the month. Id rather get a restock fee or something than have to try and sell it.
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That is the way I normally do it, better to be prepared for the worst case. I didn't get a chance to call yesterday but I will call after work today and get you a price for clutch plus flywheel.
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Hey Jordan, when you get the price, check the re-stocking fee. That may be the smart way to go.
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Sesurfac a flywheek: $30. New one: $350. I've had a lightweight flywheel before from JUN Auto Japan. They are great because you can shift much faster, engine is more respnnsive and its less rotating mass so you save a bit of gas.
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Responding with my cell phone sucks. I swear my spelling is gooder...
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Well let me know. I am already preparing the wife to cook you guys up some amazing food and baked goods. She can get the favorite brews and order the parts as required.
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I am not a big fan of light weight fly wheels on trucks. They're great for race cars that like to rev quickly but for off-road grunt, heavy is the way to go. My 2 cents.
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I agree. If you are going to do more city driving, then lightweight is the way to go.. Otherwise keep the original one on for the trail.
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well im likely doing about 70% 30% in the future and most likely not tons of rough big rocks and stuff so a lightweight might be good then?
Any word on this?
So i was selected for advancement to chief petty officer. I am not able to check back and forth to the forums as much and communication with my wife is minimal compared to two weeks ago. i still email her everyday though. Anyways cutting to the chase. Let me know if this is a go here or else we are just going to get it fixed at the shop. it sucks doing it that way, but its something that needs to be completed by around oct 1st.
I appreciate all the insight either way guys. I cannot wait to get back and at least get on some trail.
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Oh we can do this, Im going to go by Jim wolf on Monday and get pricing for you. I've called a few times but they were swamped, its always easier to just to stop by. But no matter where you get the clutch I'm down to install it for you.
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you are amazing man let me know and a date you can do it. ill get the wife in contact with you.
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Please post up when this will go down....I'll be happy to help in any way I can.....even if it means I'm just fanning Jordan while he does all the work!!
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I got the place if we need it.
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Roger dodger... I'll keep you guys in the loop. Due to towing I think this might have to go down in Mira mesa but thanks for the offer of your casa, your driveway is definetly not worn clutch friendly duffman haha
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any word on this?
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sorry, i typed your pm but forgot to hit send :D
pm sent
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So we're a go on the clutch job, who's available and when to get this done
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I should good for the 25th and maybe the 24th or weekdays.
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i think the 24/25 works for me, we will be warmed up modding all those xterras the weekend before :)
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my wife said 25th because she has a meeting for my advancement stuff on the 24th from 9-1pm and likely wont be back to the house till 230-300. She is always up super early if you guys wanted to get there early on the 25th. Let me know.
Also PM me your number Jordan so i can send it to her so she knows its not someone random calling or texting.
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OK I'll call her later today and hash out details.
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forgot to update. sunday, august 25th is the date. 8am is the time. be there or be square.
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oh yea, need a head count. who alls coming to this shindig? so far looks like randy, maybe christian, and me. anyone else wanna witness rich's truck under the knife?
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I will be there at 8AM sharp! No knightridering on Sat. Jordan ;) Please PM me the address.
We could use an extra hand or two for sure! Support our troops.
Come learn from the 'Masters', or at least drink pops and heckle :P
See you all there.
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I'm going to try to stop by.
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Awesome guys, they day is upon us, well tomorrow. I sent out pm's to those who showed interest in coming out. If anyone else wants to show up, message me and I can give you the address. I've got the clutch and flywheel, will be bringing tools, jack, stands and my air compressor and air tools.
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I am going to bring a floor jack, tools, lights, rags, grease and Kriol. I can bring an air compressor and Jack stands if you think we could use back-up.
Oh yeah, do we have a "Torx Plus TP55 socket" and clutch alignment tool?
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I've got the alignment tool, same one Nissans used for 30+ yrs. And I've got a t55. I've never see a tp55 but I ordered a tp55 if mine doesn't work out. From reading Xterra clutches are a pita with people claiming 20 hrs to complete so we may not finish so we might need to schedule a finishing day possibly during the week.
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Thanks guys i owe bbq and beers when I get home.
There is a floor jack and stands at my house. I am not lifted enough to need a highjack on flat ground. Others will likely bring some but there are those then my set of tools.
Again i owe you guys. Amazing!
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Clutch done in 10 hrs, booom. I read some people taking 25 hrs 8-o but randy and I cruised through it. Just gotta get fluid and fill the trans and transfer case.
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Good work jordan and randy!
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Jordan and Randy. You guys rock!!!!!! That is one incredible undertaking. You guys must be proud ;D
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Awesome guys!!
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500-600 would be a nice quote to get everywhere around my town wanted over a grand the cheapest being 1300 i said screw it i'll do it myself