Post by: Celt on May 02, 2015, 03:51:44 AM
Post by: Sage Bromax on May 02, 2015, 07:26:41 AM
Post by: Toro on May 02, 2015, 07:55:47 AM
Post by: steve c on May 02, 2015, 08:59:19 AM
How many days are you thinking, Celt?
Post by: Celt on May 02, 2015, 11:25:10 AM
If you get lucky with the weather, you might see some of the white stuff
How many days are you thinking, Celt?
I was thinking maybe 3 nights like we did the last time with the last night being in Laughlin if folks wanted to stay. Probably that first night at the campground west of the water crossings so folks could have plenty of time to get in and get some rest.
Post by: GreenGoon on May 02, 2015, 11:29:11 AM
Post by: Celt on May 02, 2015, 11:35:04 AM
Blue Team:
1. Celt (Beer snob)+ Wife to keep me in line during Fire Jenga.
2. Chimpanzee aka The Boy (With his Jeep and Grandpa)
3. Green Goon (Thread jack co-conspirator)
4. Jayrat (Canadian to blame everything on....... and Blue Team Cat Herder) +1 and ??
5. Pyrofox79 +1 (Celt's desert running dog)
6. Mark 1107 and Nia (Because they can..)
7. PainRoller Mike and Barb (Fresh meat)
8. Ultrapac 40(Oz) +1
9. Duffman and Nilda (Psssttttt Duffman, this ain't CANVAZ) definite maybe.... shesh.
Red Team:
1. Sage Bromax (Red Team Leader)
2. Nasty Jeep Danny +2...
3. DanyX
4. ShanleX
5. Alex
6. JVR +1
7. Lemans (4 Runner)
8. ScubaDale713
Post by: JFanaselle on May 02, 2015, 01:31:20 PM
If you're looking to mix things up a bit, I've been doing a ton of research on the entire Mojave Preserve over the past few weeks and have found some pretty awesome spots to go check out. The only one that is remotely close to the Mojave road is the abandoned open-pit cinder mine that the FJ club was headed to after the Lava Tubes last time. Based on what I've seen, it's definately worth going to!
There is also another awesome area just outside of Cima known as the Death Valley Mine and Dawson's Camp. It was in operation as recently as the 40s and 50s, and seems to be still very intact with several buildings, a large metal headframe over the mine shaft, and abandoned trucks and equipment all around the site. This would be about a 20 or 30 minute drive from the Camp Mojave site we stayed at on the second night last time (the fireworks spot). Could make for a nice first stop on the second day if you planning on camping at that same spot on the first night.
I was actually thinking about doing one last quick trip out there before the weather gets too hot this year. I was thinking about the weekend after Mother's day, because there'll be no moon again and it'll make for some wicked night photography again, but that date is rapidly approaching so It might have to be a weekend or two later. I wanted to make it a short two-day trip with one night out there, and I've even put together a little agenda of the places I want to see and might have found a nice camping spot. I would come in to the preserve off of Kellbaker Road from Baker and wouldn't hit dirt until well into the middle of the preserve (just for time's sake). I haven't posted anything about it yet, because I was waiting to gauge some interest at the mod day at Duff Man's house next weekend. It'll be more of a destination-oriented trip, with the goal of hitting up as many of these amazing historic sites as possible.
Post by: Toro on May 02, 2015, 02:29:20 PM
Post by: GreenGoon on May 02, 2015, 03:10:09 PM
My kids were pretty crushed when we skipped the Lava tubes and I want to give them that experience. We've been thinking about an overnighter to that area again.
Keep me posted on this. Summer will be hit or miss for me, but I should free up in the fall. I'm sure you weren't thinking about a desert trip in the summer anyways.
Post by: Motorpig77 on May 02, 2015, 05:05:11 PM
And... Thread hijack in progress...
Joe and/or Danny, an overnighter in the next couple weeks would be a great idea! I was considering it myself but there is always more safety in numbers! We should plan a date!
Post by: Jayrat on May 02, 2015, 10:32:40 PM
Post by: Jayrat on May 02, 2015, 10:38:51 PM
My kids were pretty crushed when we skipped the Lava tubes and I want to give them that experience. We've been thinking about an overnighter to that area again.I'm with Danny's kids I also was Bummed out,would love to have seen the lava caves...
but I understood the situation
Post by: RBduffer on May 02, 2015, 11:31:49 PM
Sorry for the thread jack Celt ::)
Geo Taco can we make this a seperate thread? I'm getting confused ???
Post by: Celt on May 03, 2015, 01:19:45 AM
Post by: Ghost65 on May 03, 2015, 05:32:16 AM
It was a tough call for Danny, but he made the right one for everyone. A perfect excuse to go again! In two weeks and next winter.
Sorry for the thread jack Celt ::)
Geo Taco can we make this a seperate thread? I'm getting confused ???
Sure...let me just fine the DELETE button here...
Post by: JFanaselle on May 03, 2015, 08:08:28 AM
Anyone that thread jacks will be responsible to keep me in beer on the trip this winter and I don't drink cheap beer you heathenens................
I thought that was already our responsibility as the trail fee - one beer from each of us to the leader. :)
Post by: Jayrat on May 03, 2015, 08:18:42 AM
Post by: GreenGoon on May 03, 2015, 08:58:16 AM
Post by: Celt on May 03, 2015, 10:31:07 AM
I blame Danny for the thread jack ;D
as much as Danny is a viable suspect, Jayrat did it. We all know that. That's why we have him to blame stuff on.
Post by: Jayrat on May 03, 2015, 10:51:08 AM
as much as Danny is a viable suspect, Jayrat did it. We all know that. That's why we have him to blame stuff on.We blend in so well, before you know it the damage has been done
Post by: JFanaselle on May 03, 2015, 11:08:14 AM
Post by: GreenGoon on May 03, 2015, 11:09:45 AM
Post by: Celt on May 03, 2015, 11:11:53 AM
Does this constitute a thread jack about the thread jack ???
Only if it's jackin the thread that got jacked. Either way it's Jayrat's fault.....
Post by: GreenGoon on May 03, 2015, 11:14:07 AM
Post by: Celt on May 03, 2015, 11:21:03 AM
If I make it on the winter trip I will bring beer for jacking the thread jack and then Jayrat will owe you double beer for the thread jack and the jacked thread jack.
Nice...................
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on May 03, 2015, 02:07:10 PM
Post by: Celt on May 04, 2015, 12:33:25 AM
Sign me up.
You are on "The list."
Post by: Celt on May 05, 2015, 10:00:14 AM
Post by: steve c on May 05, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
I was thinking about Jan 15,16,17th 2016. What's the general consensus of you guys that are interested?
Yes!
Then do it again in April!
All the trips!
Post by: JFanaselle on May 05, 2015, 10:44:23 AM
I was thinking about Jan 15,16,17th 2016. What's the general consensus of you guys that are interested?
Works for me
Post by: Jayrat on May 05, 2015, 10:45:11 AM
I was thinking about Jan 15,16,17th 2016. What's the general consensus of you guys that are interested?Arrive in Laughlin on 17th ??
Post by: Sage Bromax on May 05, 2015, 11:17:54 AM
Post by: Celt on May 05, 2015, 03:51:38 PM
Arrive in Laughlin on 17th ??
Yeah, sometime in the evening I'm thinkin.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on May 05, 2015, 07:26:42 PM
Post by: Jayrat on May 05, 2015, 08:02:31 PM
Yeah, sometime in the evening I'm thinkin.Sounds like a good plan
and I'll make it 3 PBR's for the thread jack
Post by: Celt on May 05, 2015, 09:12:34 PM
Sounds like a good plan
and I'll make it 3 PBR's for the thread jack
Yessssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Celt on May 05, 2015, 11:11:23 PM
Well, the 18th is Martin Luther King day, so we could stretch it to a four day trip if everyone has it off. I'm good with it either way. My wife starts teaching again on the 11th so she wouldn't make it that weekend unless we started Saturday and went through Monday.
The dates are still being hashed out and I'm pretty flexible. I think 4 days on that trail might be a little long. The three we just did was about perfect. Since the 18th is a holiday, I was thinking that might be a good recovery day at home to give the guys a chance to unload and fix any trail damage before having to go to work the next day. Just my .02 on multi day trips.
Post by: Sage Bromax on May 06, 2015, 06:06:56 AM
Post by: Jayrat on May 06, 2015, 08:08:01 AM
Post by: Celt on May 06, 2015, 03:07:13 PM
3 days was a good length of time. and finish off with a nice shower and drinks at Harrahs
Yeah, I'm thinkin that will be the way to go!
Post by: pyrofox79 on May 07, 2015, 09:26:20 PM
Post by: Celt on May 07, 2015, 09:54:25 PM
Im down I better be guaranteed a spot since i was the one who suggested it lol
You be in like Flynn Home Team.........
Post by: pyrofox79 on May 07, 2015, 10:22:05 PM
Post by: Celt on May 07, 2015, 11:05:16 PM
hopefully by then ill be titan swapped or somethin better than what i got now.
You will be fine with what you are running right now...
Post by: Jayrat on May 08, 2015, 07:17:46 AM
hopefully by then ill be titan swapped or somethin better than what i got now.I did the whole Road with Stock vehicle , you'll be fine
Post by: Celt on May 10, 2015, 01:40:18 AM
Post by: mark1107 on May 17, 2015, 01:02:48 AM
Mark
Post by: Celt on May 25, 2015, 07:35:29 PM
Please add Nia and Mark to the list! Nia quit her job so we are ready to go anytime anywhere!
Mark
Done!
As a side note, I got a email from the park service and the application is being processed for the trip.
Post by: PainRoller on June 06, 2015, 12:48:32 PM
Post by: Celt on June 06, 2015, 11:34:06 PM
Please add Mike and Barb to the list. We are new, but would love to attend! ;D
Done and welcome to the forums. Since on the topic, the only thing I would ask is that you will be prepared to travel roughly 180 off road miles. It's easy to do in 2wd but that's during good weather. Have the proper camping gear and clothing as it gets downright cold out there at night. As time goes on I'll post up more information on the specifics but the run itself is a hoot with a lot of really great folks that make the trip just that much better.
Post by: PainRoller on June 07, 2015, 10:49:34 AM
13. Mike and Barb (Fresh meat)
It's been a reeeeeeealy long time since anybody has considered us Fresh Meat! Love it! ;)
Done and welcome to the forums. Since on the topic, the only thing I would ask is that you will be prepared to travel roughly 180 off road miles. It's easy to do in 2wd but that's during good weather. Have the proper camping gear and clothing as it gets downright cold out there at night. As time goes on I'll post up more information on the specifics but the run itself is a hoot with a lot of really great folks that make the trip just that much better.
Thanks for adding us, we are looking forward to the run and meeting everyone. ;D
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on June 08, 2015, 09:10:10 AM
Post by: PainRoller on June 08, 2015, 09:52:35 AM
So are we going to be good with FRS, or am I going to have to break down and buy a CB? ;)
^^^^ Good question! We have a CB, but no FRS. Do we need both?
Post by: ultrapc40 on June 08, 2015, 10:21:34 AM
Post by: xxSVxx on June 08, 2015, 10:56:03 AM
So are we going to be good with FRS, or am I going to have to break down and buy a CB? ;)
A CB will run you $30, and is infinitely more reliable than FRS.
Now, don't get me started on HAM radios....LOL...
Post by: RBduffer on June 08, 2015, 11:05:52 AM
Post by: Celt on June 08, 2015, 04:19:41 PM
I will put my name in the hat for this trip
Done
Post by: Celt on June 08, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
So are we going to be good with FRS, or am I going to have to break down and buy a CB? ;)
I would appreciate it if you could run with a CB at least to be able to communicate. As Duffman put it, HAM's would be much more preferable as they are so much more reliable but not a requirement.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on June 08, 2015, 06:33:01 PM
Post by: Celt on June 08, 2015, 07:31:35 PM
^^^^ Good question! We have a CB, but no FRS. Do we need both?
No FRS required, I doubt anyone will have them other than to keep tabs on their kids if they go running off from camp.
Post by: Jayrat on June 08, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
Post by: Celt on June 09, 2015, 05:21:10 AM
So, again, question ? my sons TMNT walkie talkies , are not gong to work for this trip ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Those will be the primary means of communication.
Post by: Alex on June 09, 2015, 02:34:17 PM
So, again, question ? my sons TMNT walkie talkies , are not gong to work for this trip ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
With enough mods I'm sure it'll work ;D
Post by: Celt on June 09, 2015, 04:41:53 PM
With enough mods I'm sure it'll work ;D
Last I saw his son installed crypto on them and has Sat Comms.
Post by: Jayrat on June 09, 2015, 09:28:24 PM
Post by: knightrider on June 11, 2015, 10:31:30 AM
Post by: RBduffer on June 11, 2015, 11:26:23 AM
I'm with Jayrat, Crypto Crapto!
Post by: Celt on June 12, 2015, 11:49:57 PM
Radio talk always brings out the Nerds ::)
I'm with Jayrat, Crypto Crapto!
While all this may be true................. Why is there no Duffman postings in attendance on this run? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????
Post by: Ghost65 on June 15, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
While all this may be true................. Why is there no Duffman postings in attendance on this run? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????
He's too busy cleaning up threads.
Sent from Planet Claire
using Tapatalk
Post by: RBduffer on June 15, 2015, 01:22:33 PM
While all this may be true................. Why is there no Duffman postings in attendance on this run? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????
Ah yes! An oversight indeed. We will be in attendance for this fine festival of fun and
I'll be there offering my expertice as trail leader, tail guner or beverage holder for the red white and, blue or green trails 8)
Post by: Celt on June 15, 2015, 06:12:11 PM
Ah yes! An oversight indeed. We will be in attendance for this fine festival of fun andfrivolity, frivillessnessfffffforget it.
I'll be there offering my expertice as trail leader, tail guner or beverage holder for the red white and, blue or green trails 8)
You sure you were posting up for the Mojave (Winter version) instead of CANVAS??
Post by: RBduffer on June 16, 2015, 08:43:11 PM
Post by: Celt on June 16, 2015, 09:24:58 PM
Holy crap! Busted! Well now, this IS embarrassing :'( I should delete my post, but I will leave it for fodder. Or GeoTaco could delete it for me....but then you would have to rewrite a whole new thread again ::) Any way, Nilda and I are a deffinate maybe ;D
................. Done.................
Post by: Goldfish on August 05, 2015, 06:15:23 PM
Post by: fourxfunk on August 05, 2015, 06:42:59 PM
Post by: Celt on August 05, 2015, 06:47:23 PM
Please put me on the standby list.
Done
Post by: Celt on August 05, 2015, 06:47:45 PM
Same here I'd definitely do a Mojave Rd trip
Done..
Post by: mark1107 on August 24, 2015, 08:44:55 AM
Mark & Nia
Post by: Celt on August 24, 2015, 10:08:47 AM
Thank you for adding us! We are definitely in!
Mark & Nia
No worries, I'm really looking forward to this trip.
Post by: Motorpig77 on September 08, 2015, 03:26:02 AM
Post by: Celt on September 08, 2015, 10:29:17 AM
This is getting closer and because of that...I'm getting more excited!!! :) It should make an interesting trip! I'll throw it out there now, If ANYONE needs or wants some winter camping advice / tips / tricks, hit me up and we'll chit chat!
I agree, it has the potential to be freaking cold so folks need to be prepared for that.
Post by: knightrider on September 08, 2015, 11:40:20 AM
Post by: Celt on September 08, 2015, 11:41:14 AM
bah its socal, wear shorts and flip flops :)
I know I will, it's when you see me put on pants that you know the temp is hovering right around 32f
Post by: DannyX on September 10, 2015, 06:38:58 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on September 10, 2015, 09:23:49 PM
Can I get on that wait list??
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Just added you.
Post by: Celt on September 19, 2015, 01:44:35 AM
Pabst won a blue ribbon in 1893 , how's that for class
Bro,,,that is a "Smiteable" post if I ever saw one... Especially from our resident Canadian as you guys profess to have an idea about beer and the enlarged cutouts on the cases to be able to accommodate mittens in the winter.
Post by: ShanleX on September 22, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
Post by: Celt on September 23, 2015, 12:40:24 AM
I'd totally be down for this. What's the list I need to be put on!? Let's do it!
From the way the trail looks right now we are full, however there always seem to be last minute cancellations so I added you onto the wait list.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on September 29, 2015, 10:44:06 AM
Post by: Celt on September 29, 2015, 11:00:38 AM
I know we're still a few months out...but I'm getting really excited!! I've started to off road a little more, getting more comfortable. Can't wait to meet new faces in the world of Xterra's! ;D ;D ;D ;D
It should definitely be a really fun run. It won't be technical at all and by design is setup that way. You should be able to do the trip in it's entirety in 2wd other than if there has been lots of rain beforehand. Lot's of great folks going so there is sure to be plenty of laughs at night around the fires. I'm looking forward to meeting you and hope you really have a great time on this run.
Post by: Celt on September 29, 2015, 11:49:45 AM
All things being said the trip is still moving forward and will get worked out,,, eventually...
Post by: PainRoller on September 29, 2015, 12:08:37 PM
You folks just wouldn't believe the beuocracy involved in getting a permit from this field office. The shenagens continue yet to date..... It will make a great campfire story just bring a pillow and some duct tape because you will want to bang your head against the nearest available rock. I myself am fighting the urge to carving my eyes out with a dull wooden spoon after responding to the latest "special" email 5 minutes ago............
All things being said the trip is still moving forward and will get worked out,,, eventually...
(https://camo.githubusercontent.com/3c10b66799bb37e8ba5db562876741eec764d1d2/687474703a2f2f7374617469632e636f6d696376696e652e636f6d2f75706c6f6164732f6f726967696e616c2f31313131332f3131313133393733302f333734373537352d373130333735313236372d77686f7364616d616e2e6a70672d3434393737386431333833343134343535)
Which is my way of saying "Thanks for taking care of the bureaucratic BS so we can all go have fun"!! ;)
Post by: ultrapc40 on September 29, 2015, 01:59:33 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on September 29, 2015, 03:00:08 PM
Special use permits are required for all organized events. Events include but are not limited to tours,weddings, First Amendment activities, sporting events, and other gatherings. Additionally, any group traveling with 7 or more vehicles or 15 or more participants must obtain a special use permit. Examples of groups requiring a permit include:
- College field trips with 15 or more students.
- Equestrian rides of 15 or more participants.
- Bicycle tours or races with 15 or more participants.
- 4-wheel drive groups traveling together with 7 or more vehicles or 15 or more participants.
- Street-legal motorcycle tours involving 7 or more vehicles.
- Groups camping together in roadside camps sites with 7 or more vehicles or 15 or more participants.
When Toro put together the TMR run in April of this year, we got stopped by rangers twice asking for our permit. They typically cap your permit at 14 or 15 vehicles and 30 people, and my understanding is that the fines are pretty steep if you get caught without one.
Post by: RBduffer on September 29, 2015, 04:17:09 PM
You folks just wouldn't believe the bureaucracy involved in getting a permit from this field office. The shenagens continue yet to date..... It will make a great campfire story just bring a pillow and some duct tape because you will want to bang your head against the nearest available rock. I myself am fighting the urge to carving my eyes out with a dull wooden spoon after responding to the latest "special" email 5 minutes ago............
All things being said the trip is still moving forward and will get worked out,,, eventually...
Welcome to Toro's world ;D
You guys have patience that I am NOT EVEN familiar with :-*
Post by: Celt on September 29, 2015, 08:45:55 PM
(https://camo.githubusercontent.com/3c10b66799bb37e8ba5db562876741eec764d1d2/687474703a2f2f7374617469632e636f6d696376696e652e636f6d2f75706c6f6164732f6f726967696e616c2f31313131332f3131313133393733302f333734373537352d373130333735313236372d77686f7364616d616e2e6a70672d3434393737386431333833343134343535)
Which is my way of saying "Thanks for taking care of the bureaucratic BS so we can all go have fun"!! ;)
HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAA............. Sammy Davis Jr!! Awesome!
Post by: Celt on September 29, 2015, 08:49:06 PM
Post by: Celt on September 29, 2015, 10:29:35 PM
What are they asking you to do? Are you planning to camp inside the area? A group and I went with before stayed outside the area when we camped. I don't think we needed permits.
They just want to know our planned route and like JF said there is a lot of permits involved travelling through the area. Obtaining a permit is a little like herding cats. You follow the instructions and send in the required non-refundable check. Sit and wait and wait some more. Send follow up emails only to learn they don't have your permit application after they told you they received it. Then you wait some more. You follow up to be told the permit was either lost or they thought you were no longer interested in obtaining the permit. After this you fill out the same permit and go back into the Ooda loop of questions. It only gets better because now they don't have any record of the check you sent being cashed so you have to stand by to prove you sent the check in the first place. Or they say you can send another check (but good luck recovering the other funds).
Meanwhile none of this is trackable or accountable. There are no control numbers issued and the permit application sits on a desk collecting dust until someone decides to look at it. There is nobody held accountable nor is there anywhere to put in an inquiry as to what the heck is going on. I guess I'm just getting a bit disgruntled but if you don't jump through each hoop they throw at you they won't process the permit. In the end no permit, no fun. I'm not willing to throw my sucker in the dirt and cancel everyone's fun. Were gonna have fun dangit no matter what.................
It's gonna work out I'm sure.
Post by: Jayrat on September 30, 2015, 07:36:31 AM
Post by: Alex on October 12, 2015, 03:41:41 PM
Post by: Celt on October 12, 2015, 04:09:53 PM
Add me to the waitlist Mr. Celt :)
Done
Post by: Celt on October 12, 2015, 06:15:05 PM
With two separate permits nobody would be left behind on what I believe is going to be an awesome trip and wouldn't be out of compliance with regulations and subject to probably a very hefty fine (levied on me). It's also helpful to last minute folks that may be able to jump aboard. Soooo, anyone willing to take on the role as Co-Conspirator in this please post up if you are serious. We can work together offline and I'll help with all the specifics you would need for the permit. I believe the permit is roughly $75, I already took care of that on permit #1. I'll still do all the leg work and planning for the trip, planned stops, alternate routes, helping people out along the way etc. You would just have to pull another permit and be a trail leader during the day for group #2. It gets even better because if someone gets mad you can just shrug your shoulders and point at me. Win/Win situation here.
Post by: Sage Bromax on October 12, 2015, 09:05:47 PM
I'm your huckleberry. We can call my group a geology-themed trip, to differentiate the groups for permit purposes. PM me and we will coordinate.
Post by: Celt on October 12, 2015, 09:18:35 PM
Celt,
I'm your huckleberry. We can call my group a geology-themed trip, to differentiate the groups for permit purposes. PM me and we will coordinate.
Ok, done deal, you are officially Co-Conspirator. Truth be known I really appreciate it you will be perfect for the job.
Post by: Alex on October 12, 2015, 09:24:29 PM
And I think this'll be a nice goal for me to join the cool kids club and aim for getting a HAM license and radio by the time of the trip. 8)
Post by: Celt on October 12, 2015, 09:40:34 PM
I'd be willing to chip in some money to help with the second permit cost.
And I think this'll be a nice goal for me to join the cool kids club and aim for getting a HAM license and radio by the time of the trip. 8)
You certainly will not regret getting your HAM license, just makes things much easier as a whole.
Post by: Sage Bromax on October 12, 2015, 09:40:59 PM
I'd be willing to chip in some money to help with the second permit cost.Don't worry about the permit costs. Focus more on gear prep.
And I think this'll be a nice goal for me to join the cool kids club and aim for getting a HAM license and radio by the time of the trip. 8)
Getting a Tech-level license is much easier than most people think. Use the flash card method and focus on learning the answers to the questions.
Post by: Celt on October 12, 2015, 09:54:18 PM
Post by: RBduffer on October 13, 2015, 10:43:17 AM
Just a little FYI to everyone: These kind of long-lead-time excursions tend to go one of two ways, either lots of folks rush to get in during the last week or we have drop outs at the last minute. This might be a good time to show your 'realistic' commitment, the best that you can, in your "percentage chance of making it". Realistically, I'm 80% sure that I will make it. If you're only 50/50 or less just say so, it will help with the planing.
Celt and Bromax have committed to working hard to help as many people as they can, to have a great time, so let's help them any way that we can. On that note, we always TRY to make sure that our leaders don't lose money helping us. Ten bucks a truck to cover the permit costs is the very least we can do. If any of you mathematicians think that this is a money maker for the leaders, we invite you to run the next trail ;) We don't do deposits, because it isn't enough money to keep folks from flaking out. So let's realistically make this the trip of all trips. I would love to see 30 rigs making a circle around the campfire. Let's party!
Post by: jvr on October 13, 2015, 01:39:17 PM
Post by: Celt on October 13, 2015, 04:50:45 PM
I want to go after the canvaz trip I'm 99.99% I want to go put me down :o ::) :o ::) :o ::)
Done
Post by: jvr on October 13, 2015, 05:52:11 PM
Thanks celt
Post by: Ghost65 on October 13, 2015, 07:18:15 PM
Earning that BOD moniker... ;)
Sent from Cygnus X-1
Post by: Jayrat on October 13, 2015, 09:03:45 PM
I'll give you the $10 at the food trucks on Thursday
Post by: Celt on October 13, 2015, 09:13:04 PM
Hey Celt .
I'll give you the $10 at the food trucks on Thursday
If folks wanted to contribute to the event I suppose that's fine but completely not necessary or expected. My biggest priority in this whole run is everyone having a great time with lots of laughs and time spent outdoors instead of glued to a phone or FaceSpace or whatever that other stuff is called.
Post by: Sage Bromax on October 13, 2015, 09:27:38 PM
Post by: ultrapc40 on October 13, 2015, 10:29:41 PM
Post by: Ghost65 on October 14, 2015, 06:54:30 AM
My biggest priority in this whole run is everyone having a great time with lots of laughs and time spent outdoors instead of glued to a phone or FaceSpace....
Well said. :)
Sent from Cygnus X-1
Post by: JFanaselle on October 14, 2015, 08:46:28 AM
My biggest priority in this whole run is everyone having a great time with lots of laughs and time spent outdoors instead of glued to a phone or FaceSpace or whatever that other stuff is called.
This is easy to accomplish using the following steps:
1) Make sure we camp at locations where there is no cell service (pretty easy, since MOST of the area out there doesn't)
2) Make sure RBDuffer attends brings his campfire act along. No one will be staring at their phones with that kind of entertainment on hand! ;D
Post by: xxSVxx on October 14, 2015, 09:09:49 AM
so this will be an exploring trip, nothing high speed?
Oh my friend....you need to attend the TMR trip in April....I think you will find the, um, pace group to your liking
Post by: ultrapc40 on October 14, 2015, 09:12:08 AM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: xxSVxx on October 14, 2015, 09:19:07 AM
Hahaha. Just trying to decide if I want to take the big truck or the little truck for this trip. I do the Mohave to Avi trip with Kev annually. 1 day out, 1 day back. It's super fun.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ok....that makes sense....we have actually stretched it out to a 3 day xcursion now, but we are not shy in the front group....and the slalom course w/ joshua trees is a huge adrenaline rush
Post by: Celt on October 16, 2015, 10:12:00 AM
If we do decide to have potluck dinners, something we need to keep in mind is the sun goes down early and it gets cold fast. That being said, we would need to be setting up our perspective campsites by 3-3:30 each night to allow enough time to prepare campsites, dinners and get the fire going. Along with cooking, please everyone bring all of your own plates, knives, forks, napkins etc. If someone forgets something, we can try to accommodate but I don't want anyone to have to feel responsible to bring flatware for everyone. I know the Lava Tubes are a priority as are other sites we can come up with. What I would ask is we make tracks while on the move until our planned stops. If someone needs to stop that's fine I know there are kids and things happen but we really need to keep those stops to a minimum if possible. I'm not saying we can't stop for pics or watering a cactus. If it's an issue you can fix on the move or wait until a planned stop it might work out best for the group.
Since were having two groups, we won't be so spread out and everyone can congregate at night which will just be a heck of a lot of fun. I would ask that everyone brings at least two decent bundles of wood because it's winter and cold and we will have such a large group so everyone can stay warm. Jayrat kindly told me he would herd cats for my group. When Sage Bromax gets setup he can designate how he wants to run his conga line.
I have a couple of concerns with this El Nino' popping up on the radar. One being the water crossings, we will have to closely monitor and the dry lake bed. That could quickly become a quagmire and downright dangerous. If that's the case we may have to circumvent those because I will not knowingly put anyone in a spot that they could be harmed or damage their vehicle. Sage Bromax and I have already discussed coming up with a good alternate route. Since this is a winter run with the possibility of temps into the 20's/30's at night, please everyone be prepared for this. Anyone who is unfamiliar with winter camping or what they may need to bring please send me a PM. I know Motorpig77 also kindly offered his assistance in this matter. I'd hate for someone to come out there under equipped and get cold when it's unnecessary. I'm going to look into group rates at a couple different hotels in Laughlin if you guys would like and hopefully come up with some good deals.
What's your thoughts? This is your run and I'd really like it to be awesome!
Post by: Ghost65 on October 16, 2015, 11:55:29 AM
Sent from Cygnus X-1
Post by: ultrapc40 on October 16, 2015, 12:04:15 PM
I did the "dry" lakebed one time when it was pouring. If you let off you are screwed.
I honestly would not run those two section again if it's raining or recently rain before the trip. Not trying to be a Debbie downer but doing it once was sketchy enough for me.
Post by: Alex on October 16, 2015, 01:10:15 PM
Both groups meet and leave Friday morning gassed and ready to go (one hour apart), Jan 15th
First trail lunch and first night/dinner on the trail is Friday night, Jan 15th
First trail breakfast Saturday, second trail lunch on the trail, and second night/dinner, Jan 16th
Second trail breakfast Sunday, second trail lunch then off the trail sometime Sunday, Jan 17th
Optional night in Laughlin Sunday night, Jan 17th, or drive back Sunday
Drive back Monday sometime, Jan 18th
Is that layout we're thinking?
I'm in for the night at Laughlin. :)
So two of each: breakfast/lunch/potluck dinner on the trail + individual plates/utensils + trail snacks
Plenty of water; one gallon per person per day: I'd recommend each have a few Nalgene bottles or the similar
Two bundles of firewood
Cold/wet camping gear
Standard Xcurison gear
CB and/or HAM
Post by: steve c on October 16, 2015, 03:09:57 PM
And when Eric said 20/30s. He's not lying.
Last year over new years, we did the Mojave Road.
The last night we camped just after the lake bed in the sand dunes. It was 15 degrees in the morning when we woke up.
Post by: Celt on October 16, 2015, 11:03:43 PM
Post by: knightrider on October 17, 2015, 12:58:40 AM
If the forcast is right and we get large amount of rain. The dry lakebed and Afton canyon might not be passable.
I did the "dry" lakebed one time when it was pouring. If you let off you are screwed.
I honestly would not run those two section again if it's raining or recently rain before the trip. Not trying to be a Debbie downer but doing it once was sketchy enough for me.
Yes this was discussed at food truck thursday and an alternate route will be taken to avoid the rivers and "dry" lake bed if el nino is everything they say it will be.
Post by: Alex on October 20, 2015, 01:46:36 PM
Post by: Celt on October 21, 2015, 07:02:34 PM
I doubt we'll hit the two group combined capacity of 30 (!) rigs by the time of the trip, but I think it'll be critical that everyone bring a sufficient amount of food for all the days, given that we'll have probably 40 to 45 (!) people I'd estimate.
Agreed, that's kinda why I was asking around if folks want to do a couple group dinners or if they would rather fend for themselves? As things get closer hopefully more will begin to chime in here. On a better note, I just got contacted by the Park Service and the permit is approved and they "say" it's going in the mail this week.
:o ;D ::)
Post by: steve c on October 21, 2015, 07:25:57 PM
Agreed, that's kinda why I was asking around if folks want to do a couple group dinners or if they would rather fend for themselves? As things get closer hopefully more will begin to chime in here. On a better note, I just got contacted by the Park Service and the permit is approved and they "say" it's going in the mail this week.
:o ;D ::)
(http://emmyc.com/yessssss.gif)
Post by: Jayrat on October 21, 2015, 10:16:10 PM
Agreed, that's kinda why I was asking around if folks want to do a couple group dinners or if they would rather fend for themselves? As things get closer hopefully more will begin to chime in here. On a better note, I just got contacted by the Park Service and the permit is approved and they "say" it's going in the mail this week.[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
:o ;D ::)
Post by: Celt on October 22, 2015, 12:30:05 AM
If you are not prepared to go on this trip because you do not have a stove or cooking /camping equipment etc. now it the time to say so. There are many folks who can step up and offer their help (Myself included). What I would like to ask is anyone who has a very large pot who would be willing to boil up enough hot water for the crowd to post up. I'll provide the cocoa and s'more making material for everyone. My whole idea on inception of this trip is to make it a lot of fun and as stress free as possible. I want to cover a lot of desert miles while stopping at places everyone votes to do so and have a great night camping playing Fire Jenga (Randy) with a lot of laughs along the way.
Post by: Celt on October 22, 2015, 12:37:32 AM
If the forcast is right and we get large amount of rain. The dry lakebed and Afton canyon might not be passable.
I did the "dry" lakebed one time when it was pouring. If you let off you are screwed.
I honestly would not run those two section again if it's raining or recently rain before the trip. Not trying to be a Debbie downer but doing it once was sketchy enough for me.
Agreed 100%..........
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on October 22, 2015, 09:12:05 AM
Post by: Celt on October 22, 2015, 10:06:18 AM
As of right now, would the 2nd group be completed filled? I have a friend that would be interested, however he has a 4Runner.
Sign him up...
Post by: PainRoller on October 23, 2015, 11:22:07 AM
So after some careful deliberation here is the direction I would like to go. Everyone should be responsible for all of their meals on this trip. I don't want to put the stress on a few members to haul extra food and be responsible for the masses and the associated clean up while everyone is already set up or broken down ready to go. In the end we have a lot of people that are potentially going and it would be impossible to do a catered trip. I would love a very big group of folks in attendance. With a group this large, preparing meals for everyone at night is a daunting task that could easily result in disaster. If you want to team up with other members for group meals that's fine, you can work those details out amongst yourselves.
100% Agree! It's a daunting task to feed a large group on the trail. Especially in this day and age when so many have food allergies or are on specialized diets. We much prefer the idea of being "self feeders" and/or small group potlucks.
What I would like to ask is anyone who has a very large pot who would be willing to boil up enough hot water for the crowd to post up. I'll provide the cocoa and s'more making material for everyone.Define very large pot - what size you thinking? 'Cuz I got some pots....
My whole idea on inception of this trip is to make it a lot of fun and as stress free as possible. I want to cover a lot of desert miles while stopping at places everyone votes to do so and have a great night camping playing Fire Jenga (Randy) with a lot of laughs along the way.
Really looking forward to fun, building friendships, and having an amazing offroad trip!! ;D ;D
Post by: Celt on October 23, 2015, 11:28:41 AM
Something big enough that we could heat enough hot chocolate for 30 or so people.
Post by: Sage Bromax on October 23, 2015, 12:00:48 PM
Post by: Celt on October 23, 2015, 01:27:10 PM
I have submitted the permit application for the Red Team.
Thank you Sir!
Post by: JFanaselle on October 23, 2015, 02:56:36 PM
Post by: PainRoller on October 23, 2015, 03:02:38 PM
Tony - if you still need a tail gunner, I'll be huckleberry. I'm 90% "in" for this trip as of now - can't commit the full 100% until we nail down the dates and I check with work. But I'd be happy to help you herd cats. :)
I thought the dates were nailed down ??? ???
The Un-Official list of interested folks, if you plan on bringing family or others please post up as depending upon the size we may have limitations. This will be a family friendly trip although "Fire Jenga" and other shenanagens are standard SOP. Dates are Jan 15th,16th,17th 2016.
Post by: Celt on October 23, 2015, 03:14:47 PM
Post by: Alex on October 23, 2015, 04:35:47 PM
But I'd be happy to help you herd cats. :)
(http://rs29.pbsrc.com/albums/c284/tdmyers/GIFs/Yj9Xe2A_zpsc20abf6f.gif~c200)
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on October 23, 2015, 05:03:51 PM
Sign him up...
Ok, put my friend down(his name is Lemans) with the 4Runner.
Post by: JFanaselle on October 23, 2015, 05:11:20 PM
Post by: fourxfunk on October 23, 2015, 05:31:10 PM
Post by: steve c on October 23, 2015, 05:38:16 PM
Maybe Santa will bring you some new tires before then :D
Post by: PainRoller on October 23, 2015, 05:58:37 PM
Joe - keep up, Dood!! And you'd better be going! ;)
Post by: Celt on October 23, 2015, 07:11:03 PM
(http://rs29.pbsrc.com/albums/c284/tdmyers/GIFs/Yj9Xe2A_zpsc20abf6f.gif~c200)
Alex that is funny, haven't seen that in a long time. Jayrat has already kindly volunteered to herd cats for me and JF for Sage Bromax's conga line. Where you could be very useful is being a mid-gunner for either of us.
Post by: Celt on October 23, 2015, 07:12:11 PM
Whoops... my bad. I thought we were still saying "Jan or Feb." My mistake. I'll ask my employer now. :)
JF, if you show in Feb it might be pretty lonely and we would for sure have to Channel 18 you for the slight.
Post by: Celt on October 23, 2015, 07:19:15 PM
I'm still in. So how crazy would or be to run Mojave Rd. on OEM Long Trails?
As long as you air down pretty good and avoid deep mud you should come through ok. Much of the run is pretty hard pack dirt road. Just have to be aware of any potential sticky spots with winter conditions but that's why we have radios to get that info around. If you have front and rear recovery points that would be helpful. On the last trip I ran the whole length in 2wd without any issue at all.
Post by: Alex on October 24, 2015, 07:10:29 PM
Alex that is funny, haven't seen that in a long time. Jayrat has already kindly volunteered to herd cats for me and JF for Sage Bromax's conga line. Where you could be very useful is being a mid-gunner for either of us.Gladly Erik, I can help relay messages through the group :)
Post by: Celt on October 25, 2015, 10:52:07 AM
Post by: steve c on October 25, 2015, 08:36:52 PM
Who's a Ham?
No better time to start studying and have your license by January!
35 question test from a published FCC question pool!
Find sample tests;
http://www.qrz.com/hamtest/
http://aa9pw.com/radio/
http://www.eham.net/exams/
http://hamexam.org/
More (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ham+radio+practice+test)
You can get as silly as you want with a radio, but here's a great write up by Mr. Bills on TNX
Poor Man's Ham Radio < $100 (http://www.thenewx.org/forum/showthread.php?t=114594&highlight=poor+mans+ham+radio)
Realistically, you can just buy one of these (http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-5R-Dual-Radio-Black/dp/B007H4VT7A/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1445829828&sr=1-1&keywords=baofeng+uv-5r) and be ready to TX for $25.19
Additionally, used gear is always a great way to go. If you're not looking for anything too fancy, a 2m/70cm radio is a 2m/70cm radio.
Possible sources for used gear include Craigslist, ham forums, ham stores (some do consignment) etc.
Attendees
1. Celt.................................Ham
2. Sage Bromax....................Ham
3. Toro................................Ham
4. Steve C............................Ham
5. Green Goon......................Ham
6. JFanasalle........................Ham
7. Motorpig77.......................Ham
8. Jayrat..............................?
9. SCUBADale713..................No interest
10. Pyrofox79.......................?
11. Mark 1107 and Nia...........?
12. SoCalXTerry....................Ham
13. PainRoller Mike and Barb...Ham & Ham
14. Ultrapac 40.....................Ham
15. Duffman and Nilda...........Ham
Standby list:
1. Goldfish...........................Ham
2. Fourxfunk........................Working on it, but probably not by January
3. Dany and Co....................Ham (if this is Grooters)
4. DanyX.............................?
5. ShanleX...........................?
6. Alex................................will have license by January
7. JVR.................................?
8. Lemans (4 Runner)...........Nope.
Post up if I miss labeled you with a ? if you're a Ham.
Also, if you are thinking about getting your license, post up and I'll change your ? to a "will have license by January"
ETA:
More Hams thanks to GeoYota
Alex (Studying)
Ultrapac40(oz) confirmed by Duffman.
Post by: Ghost65 on October 25, 2015, 08:53:34 PM
Sent from Cygnus X-1
Post by: Alex on October 25, 2015, 11:13:38 PM
http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-010078 (http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-010078)
Mark me as "Will have license by January" :)
Post by: knightrider on October 26, 2015, 12:16:38 AM
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on October 26, 2015, 12:33:38 AM
I take it this should be OK to get for a HAM radio?
http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-010078 (http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-010078)
Mark me as "Will have license by January" :)
Same station I have, I've been nothing but impressed with it. Knightrider and Jayrat both helped me install it a few food truck Thursdays ago. If you get a programming CD it will really make life a lot easier for you. I think I paid about $130 for the radio itself and all things considered, think it was probably the best bang for the buck I could have got. Good luck on getting the ticket!
Post by: Sage Bromax on October 26, 2015, 05:41:06 AM
INCIDENT RADIO COMMUNICATIONS PLAN Date/Time Prepared
10-13-15 0600
Ch # Function Channel Name Receive Frequency (MHz) Receive Tone (kHz) Transmit frequency (MHz) Transmit Tone (kHz) Remarks
1 Convoy Primary Trail Frequency (SCCX Simplex) 146.5350 none 146.5350 none Main group channel
2 Convoy Backup Trail Frequency A 146.4750 none 146.4750 none Fallback channel in case above channel is too busy
3 Convoy Backup Trail Frequency B 146.4900 none 146.4900 none Fallback channel in case above channels are too busy
4 Convoy Backup Trail Frequency C 147.4800 none 147.4800 none Fallback channel in case above channels are too busy
5 Convoy Backup Trail Frequency D 146.5500 none 146.5500 none Fallback channel in case above channels are too busy
6 Travel - Hailing National VHF Simplex 146.5200 none 146.5200 none Wilderness Protocol and general hailing
7 Travel - Hailing National UHF Simplex 446.0000 none 446.0000 none Wilderness Protocol and general hailing
8 Distance Victorville repeater 146.9400 none 146.3400 91.5 Open repeater
9 Distance Barstow VHF repeater 147.1800 none 147.7800 151.4 Open repeater - Linked to Ludlow and Newberry Springs
10 Distance Ludlow VHF repeater 147.8850 none 147.2850 none Open repeater - Linked to Barstow and Newberry Springs
11 Distance Newberry Springs VHF repeater 146.7000 none 146.1000 none Open repeater - Linked to Ludlow and Barstow
12 Distance Las Vegas VHF repeater 146.8800 none 146.2800 100.0 Open repeater by Las Vegas on Mt. Potosi
13 Distance Needles VHF repeater 146.7600 none 146.1600 131.8 Open repeater by Needles
14 Long Distance Silver Peak (Bishop) WIN repeater 444.6000 none 449.6000 100.0 WIN system linked repeater, system covers several states
15 Long Distance Ridgecrest WIN system repeater 147.9750 none 147.3750 100.0 WIN system linked repeater, system covers several states
16 Long Distance Ridgecrest WIN system repeater 448.8000 none 443.8000 100.0 WIN system linked repeater, system covers several states
17 Long Distance Barstow WIN system repeater 449.0800 none 444.0800 100.0 WIN system linked repeater, system covers several states
18 Long Distance Victorville WIN system repeater 448.9000 none 443.9000 162.2 WIN system linked repeater, system covers several states
19 Long Distance Palomar (San Diego) WIN system repeater 449.0800 none 444.0800 100.0 WIN system linked repeater, system covers several states
20 Long Distance Hemet WIN system repeater 446.8600 none 441.8600 100.0 WIN system linked repeater, system covers several states
Prepared By: Incident Location: Mojave Desert
Sage Bromax County: San Bernardino State: CA Latitude: 35.00 N Longitude: -115.6500 W
Use the minimum power level necessary for clear communications.
Use repeaters for initial contact, or in case of emergency. When within range, switch to a simplex frequency.
The WIN system is mostly UHF. See complete listing and site location map here: http://batchgeo.com/map/dd38a77a78536badb47ce3eeaef65c0a
Post by: RBduffer on October 26, 2015, 10:11:23 AM
Ultrapac 40(oz) is a Ham.
Post by: Celt on October 26, 2015, 10:40:54 AM
Post by: PainRoller on October 26, 2015, 11:32:05 AM
Mark me as "Will have license by January" :)
WOOT!! You can Do IT! ;D
Bromax - DAAAAMMMMMNNNN!! That's a sexy list! ;D
This week I'm going to check around and see if I can get a special rate at one of the casinos for everyone to stay in.
Sweet! Let us know what you find! :D
Celt and Alex:
(http://i.imgur.com/5tewEZF.gif)
Post by: Celt on October 27, 2015, 11:07:23 AM
Post by: JFanaselle on October 27, 2015, 11:20:15 AM
ok sorry for the late post but i am getting the rooms at harrahs setup, the rate offered was $25 for the North Tower Classic Double Queen Room.
this rate is for single/double occupancy and not including 12% clark county room tax and $7.50 Resort Fee, more than 2 people is $10 extra a person with a max of 4 people per room(if you choose to tell them you have more than 2 is up to you). total with tax and fee is around $36.
looking at the website, the same room is available for $26.99 a night so the savings here is very minimal. due to the minimal savings im going to just skip the group rate and tell everyone to just book your hotel through the website as normal. the total for the same room without the group rate is $38.63, other rooms are available and are priced from $22.49 for a single king.
this will allow everyone flexibility to book the room that best meets your needs(loners want a single king, families probably want double queen) also if anyone wants to share rooms, the prices are for double occupancy.
Post by: jvr on October 27, 2015, 11:38:46 AM
who wants to share a room
Post by: Celt on October 27, 2015, 11:41:49 AM
Post by: Celt on October 27, 2015, 11:43:54 AM
Okay I'm running solo no HAM
who wants to share a room
You still have plenty of time to study for your ticket. Believe me when I say if I can pass that test you can too. I know a lot of us push the HAM radios but the communication with them is light years ahead of what a CB is capable of.
Post by: ultrapc40 on October 27, 2015, 12:50:45 PM
Just need to know if I should request that day off since I usually get off at 2pm.
Post by: PainRoller on October 27, 2015, 03:09:12 PM
Something big enough that we could heat enough hot chocolate for 30 or so people.
Just bought a 8 Qt Stock Pot. It should do the trick.....
Post by: Celt on October 28, 2015, 12:48:05 AM
So I might have missed it, but is the plan to meet up morning of the 15th?
Just need to know if I should request that day off since I usually get off at 2pm.
Yes, the morning of the 15th we well depart. I believe many will show up sometime through the afternoon, early evening of the 14th and camp so they can get a good nights rest before starting out.
Post by: Celt on October 28, 2015, 12:49:01 AM
Just bought a 8 Qt Stock Pot. It should do the trick.....
If you wouldn't mind using it for the cause, I will provide everything else.
Thanks much!
On a gooder note for everyone involved, the permit is in my hands for 15 trucks and 30 people.
8) 8) 8) 8)
Post by: Jayrat on October 28, 2015, 07:46:40 AM
Okay I'm running solo no HAM
who wants to share a room
I'm Just passing on what I believe Sage Bromax already posted ,
I've been using this to study for the HAM test
http://hamexam.org/
Post by: Jayrat on October 28, 2015, 07:48:25 AM
On a gooder note for everyone involved, the permit is in my hands for 15 trucks and 30 people.
8) 8) 8) 8)
SWEET
Post by: knightrider on October 28, 2015, 07:53:11 AM
The group rate does allow for them to estimate how many rooms you will need, and they also try to get everybody on the same floor/tower if everyone books the same type of room.
They have nicer rooms that cost more and sometimes what they will do is give you the nicer rooms, for the cost of the basic room, so while it doesnt seem like your saving much money, you are because of the nicer room.
Last Mojave they already had a couple groups on the same night so the deal was not that good and we didn't get a room upgrade so I didn't bother with the group rate, but its worth a shot.
Sent from my rooftop tent while stargazing
Post by: xxSVxx on October 28, 2015, 09:13:42 AM
Sent from my rooftop tent while stargazing
Showoff!!!
So jelly!!!!
Post by: Alex on October 28, 2015, 12:55:49 PM
Yes, the morning of the 15th we well depart. I believe many will show up sometime through the afternoon, early evening of the 14th and camp so they can get a good nights rest before starting out.
For those camping on the 14th, it would be in Afton Canyon?
And those seem like some great prices for the night at Laughlin, group rate or not.
Post by: Celt on October 28, 2015, 01:17:40 PM
For those camping on the 14th, it would be in Afton Canyon?
And those seem like some great prices for the night at Laughlin, group rate or not.
Yes, I thought Afton Canyon campground would be easy enough to get to for most of the people attending the night before even if they have to leave after work. It seems big enough and has minor facilities that can accommodate a group this large. It's also a good place to begin from where anyone that has to meet up in the morning can easily find it.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on October 28, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
Post by: Celt on October 28, 2015, 02:51:34 PM
I don't have HAM and neither does Lemans...I've never really had an interest in HAM. Is this going to be a problem?
Nope..
Post by: fourxfunk on October 28, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Post by: Motorpig77 on October 28, 2015, 11:12:42 PM
Post by: Celt on October 28, 2015, 11:16:21 PM
CB radio's are great when the group is close together. You may find that you won't be able to hear the lead vehicle if you are in the back, but that's only if we get spread out. One thing to consider, you can buy a handheld ham radio (baofang or similar) for about $25 on Amazon, and although you can't "legally" talk on it, you would be able to monitor the communications over it.
Well said.......
Post by: Jayrat on October 29, 2015, 08:47:11 AM
CB radio's are great when the group is close together. You may find that you won't be able to hear the lead vehicle if you are in the back, but that's only if we get spread out. One thing to consider, you can buy a handheld ham radio (baofang or similar) for about $25 on Amazon, and although you can't "legally" talk on it, you would be able to monitor the communications over it.
$29.40 Free Shipping
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009MAKWC0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
Post by: Celt on October 29, 2015, 11:00:36 AM
$29.40 Free Shipping
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009MAKWC0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
Excellent point Jay, the only drawback to the handhelds is you might need a spare battery pack for a long trip. Or buy a halfway decent inverter to re-charge the unit at camp (Which everyone should probably have anyway). Set the radio on low power and you can talk a very long time. If you are just monitoring one battery pack should last the duration. Most of those radios come pre-programmed with NOAA frequencies and many have sever weather alerts. If it's a true emergency you can legally jump on one to call for help without a license provided it's programmed to the repeater. There are a lot of benefits to having the HAM radio many are unaware of, it's not just some guy in his den talking to random people through the night.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on October 29, 2015, 11:28:58 AM
Excellent point Jay, the only drawback to the handhelds is you might need a spare battery pack for a long trip. Or buy a halfway decent inverter to re-charge the unit at camp (Which everyone should probably have anyway). Set the radio on low power and you can talk a very long time. If you are just monitoring one battery pack should last the duration. Most of those radios come pre-programmed with NOAA frequencies and many have sever weather alerts. If it's a true emergency you can legally jump on one to call for help without a license provided it's programmed to the repeater. There are a lot of benefits to having the HAM radio many are unaware of, it's not just some guy in his den talking to random people through the night.
Definitely a good point. Might also get me interested!
Post by: steve c on October 29, 2015, 11:38:06 AM
Excellent point Jay, the only drawback to the handhelds is you might need a spare battery pack for a long trip. Or buy a halfway decent inverter to re-charge the unit at camp (Which everyone should probably have anyway). Set the radio on low power and you can talk a very long time. If you are just monitoring one battery pack should last the duration. Most of those radios come pre-programmed with NOAA frequencies and many have sever weather alerts. If it's a true emergency you can legally jump on one to call for help without a license provided it's programmed to the repeater. There are a lot of benefits to having the HAM radio many are unaware of, it's not just some guy in his den talking to random people through the night.
All the talking
Battery Adapter Eliminator for Baofeng UV-5R
Image is clicky for product page
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61VP1bl8YFL._SL1200_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/EarlyBirdSavings-Battery-Adapter-Eliminator-Baofeng/dp/B009RCQWLI/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1446143739&sr=8-7&keywords=Baofeng+UV5R)
Post by: Celt on October 29, 2015, 11:49:30 AM
Thanks Steve
Post by: fiercextreme on November 01, 2015, 03:59:15 PM
Post by: steve c on November 01, 2015, 04:28:18 PM
I've been staring at this thread all year thinking I'll have time and now it seems it's too late to add another vehicle since standbys are 9 deep now. Nonetheless I'd like to add it to at least show my interest. After all, miracles do happen, right?
Standby list has been morphed into a Sage Bromax led auxiliary group.
You're GTG.
Post by: Alex on November 01, 2015, 05:37:14 PM
Just updating this as we go:
- Optional dinner and night camping in Afton Canyon, Thursday Jan 14th
- Both groups meet and leave Friday morning gassed and ready to go (one hour apart), Jan 15th
- First trail lunch and first night/dinner on the trail is Friday night, Jan 15th
- First trail breakfast Saturday, second trail lunch on the trail, and second night/dinner, Jan 16th
- Second trail breakfast Sunday, third trail lunch then off the trail sometime Sunday, Jan 17th
- Optional night in Laughlin Sunday night, Jan 17th, or drive back Sunday Jan 17th
- Drive back Monday sometime, Jan 18th
Two of each breakfast/lunch/dinner on the trail + individual plates/utensils + trail snacks per person
Plenty of water; one gallon per person per day: I'd recommend each have a few Nalgene bottles or the similar
Two bundles of firewood
Cold/wet camping gear
Standard Xcurison gear
CB radio minimum, + HAM if available
Post by: Celt on November 02, 2015, 01:19:45 AM
I've been staring at this thread all year thinking I'll have time and now it seems it's too late to add another vehicle since standbys are 9 deep now. Nonetheless I'd like to add it to at least show my interest. After all, miracles do happen, right?
I added you to "The list"
Post by: Celt on November 02, 2015, 09:34:22 AM
Yep, Red Team has the second permit in process, will no longer be the standby list. :)
Just updating this as we go:
- Optional dinner and night camping in Afton Canyon, Jan 14th
- Both groups meet and leave Friday morning gassed and ready to go (one hour apart), Jan 15th
- First trail lunch and first night/dinner on the trail is Friday night, Jan 15th
- First trail breakfast Saturday, second trail lunch on the trail, and second night/dinner, Jan 16th
- Second trail breakfast Sunday, second trail lunch then off the trail sometime Sunday, Jan 17th
- Optional night in Laughlin Sunday night, Jan 17th, or drive back Sunday Jan 17th
- Drive back Monday sometime, Jan 18th
Two of each breakfast/lunch/potluck dinner on the trail + individual plates/utensils + trail snacks per person
Plenty of water; one gallon per person per day: I'd recommend each have a few Nalgene bottles or the similar
Two bundles of firewood
Cold/wet camping gear
Standard Xcurison gear
CB radio minimum, + HAM if available
Alex, you pretty much nailed it down, the only change is everyone is responsible for their own meals. If small groups or whatever want to cook for each other is fine they can handle that side amongst themselves. I just thought it would be too much of a mess and difficult to coordinate planned meals etc for a group this large.
Post by: fiercextreme on November 02, 2015, 03:08:11 PM
Post by: PainRoller on November 02, 2015, 06:53:55 PM
U guys are awesome! Thx! Now to break the news to my fiance! ???
Bring her along. ;)
Post by: ultrapc40 on November 02, 2015, 07:52:13 PM
Post by: PainRoller on November 02, 2015, 07:55:03 PM
I am debating that. I don't think my wife would like camping in a tent in the rain. If it rain, I might bring the dodge so I have the camper. Will just have to go slower.
That's why you need a RTT..... ;) ;D
If I recall, she really liked the idea of the RTT.... >:D
Post by: Celt on November 03, 2015, 12:53:09 AM
I am debating that. I don't think my wife would like camping in a tent in the rain. If it rain, I might bring the dodge so I have the camper. Will just have to go slower.
You can do that but if it's a large full sized camper you may want to re-think it a little bit. The conditions may lend themselves to be difficult during the winter for a full sized truck with a camper. Just remember if you get stuck that means the other folks now have to get you out. I'm not trying to sound like The Grinch but on this trip, I would like to see Xterras and very similar off road vehicles. It would work out best for the group dynamics I believe. This brings me back to some of my postings about the need to be prepared for rough weather with the right gear. This isn't one of those trips where you test your gear our or try and learn how to put up your tent, especially if it's raining/snowing. At this point who is to say what the weather has in store for us but I'm still going. I don't mind inclement weather and my skin is water proof.
Post by: ultrapc40 on November 03, 2015, 10:13:09 AM
The rig is capable. Sorry should have clarify its not a trailer
Post by: Alex on November 04, 2015, 02:36:51 PM
Post by: Celt on November 04, 2015, 02:42:24 PM
Something that comes to mind: the rangers should be OK with the two groups camping together, as long as each group travels seprately during the day? I don't see why not.
As long as the campground is large enough to accommodate everyone it isn't an issue. You are not supposed to bring your vehicle or set anything 30' or farther to either side of a unmaintained roadway and I'm betting that also includes the camp sites. I have a couple spots in mind that will work just fine.
Post by: fiercextreme on November 06, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
Post by: Celt on November 06, 2015, 08:28:38 PM
How many miles will we be traveling and what kind of mileage should I expect to get from my 2015 Xterra traversing the infamous Mojave!
It's roughly about 180 miles. As long as your tank is completely full at the start it should suffice. I would bring an extra 5 gallons though because weather may dictate you are having to run a lot of 4wd and it's best to air down your tires on this run which will eat into your mileage. As for me, I'm planning on hauling x2 5 gallon jerry cans for no other reason than I can and I'll have it. As to what you can expect MPG with your 2015, I would have no clue you will need to get out and run it in the desert to get an idea.
Post by: Jayrat on November 06, 2015, 09:43:07 PM
How many miles will we be traveling and what kind of mileage should I expect to get from my 2015 Xterra traversing the infamous Mojave!I made it, on 1 tank of gas in my 2013
Post by: fiercextreme on November 08, 2015, 01:39:17 AM
Post by: Celt on November 09, 2015, 01:47:26 AM
sounds good! Thx! Now to start getting my truck ready!
What needs to be handled?
Post by: fiercextreme on November 09, 2015, 03:19:50 AM
Post by: Celt on November 09, 2015, 10:00:56 AM
Post by: Celt on November 09, 2015, 12:16:16 PM
Giddy up!
Post by: Alex on November 09, 2015, 01:21:55 PM
It looks like sunset in January is right about 5 PM, so getting into camp roughly around 3:30 PM should be good.
And that reminds me I need to start to get my cooking gear together. This'll be here pretty soon given the holidays. :)
Post by: jvr on November 09, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
Post by: RBduffer on November 09, 2015, 08:47:04 PM
Post by: Celt on November 10, 2015, 01:59:46 AM
Sunday, January 17, 2016: $22.00 per room, per night
Please note: Rates are for single or double occupancy in the North Tower Classic 1 King Bed Non-Smoking Rooms.
This rate does not include the daily Resort Fee of $7.50 or tax of 12%.
Harrah's will guarantee your room type and will place you and your guests in the same tower and whenever possible - the same floor.
Direct billing approval and the amount of direct billing is not automatically approved.
Hotel may require additional information from Group before approving Direct Billing.
Payment of deposits in a timely manner does not guarantee direct billing.
Resort Fee:
Includes in room Internet service for 2 devices, all local phone calls and Pool/Beach access.
Room Upgrade:
North Tower Classic Rooms 2B $5.00 per night (Sun - Thurs) $10.00 per night (Fri & Sat)
North Tower Deluxe Rooms 1B $5.00 per night (Sun - Thurs) $10.00 per night (Fri & Sat)
North Tower Deluxe Rooms 2B $10.00 per night (Sun - Thurs) $20.00 per night (Fri & Sat)
North Tower Conn Rooms 1&2B $15.00 per night (Sun - Thurs) $20.00 per night (Fri & Sat)
North Tower Riverview Rooms 1B $10.00 per night (Sun - Thurs) $15.00 per night (Fri & Sat)
North Tower Riverview Rooms 2B $15.00 per night (Sun - Thurs) $25.00 per night (Fri & Sat)
North Tower Riverfront Rooms 1B $15.00 per night (Sun - Thurs) $20.00 per night (Fri & Sat)
North Tower Riverfront Rooms2B $20.00 per night (Sun - Thurs) $30.00 per night (Fri & Sat)
I'm going to contact them and let them know I would prefer an individual pay so as soon as I get this finalized you can call up and make your reservation for our group.
Post by: Celt on November 11, 2015, 09:14:17 AM
Post by: knightrider on November 11, 2015, 12:54:56 PM
Post by: Celt on November 12, 2015, 07:02:24 PM
the code will also work for internet reservations for those with technology like the internets, you old guys can still phone in reservations though. :)
Stop that silly talk, everyone knows you can't use the internet for things like that.....
Post by: Sage Bromax on November 16, 2015, 12:01:24 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on November 16, 2015, 01:50:31 PM
Post by: Celt on November 17, 2015, 01:07:49 AM
That's ok, gives them more time to "forget" that they issued one to another large group for the same set of days ::)
There is a certain amount of wisdom in this rationale, sneaky too..... I like it!
Post by: Goldfish on November 25, 2015, 05:42:03 PM
Post by: Celt on November 25, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
You can take me off the stand by list. I need to retire to make room for fun.
Will do, too bad you can't make it.
Post by: ShanleX on November 28, 2015, 11:18:34 PM
Post by: PainRoller on November 30, 2015, 12:06:16 AM
Quick update, I got the agreement form from Harrah's, signed and returned it. Hopefully within the next week I will receive the code for everyone who wishes to can call in and reserve a room for the trip.
Any update on the CODE? :D
Post by: Celt on December 01, 2015, 12:18:51 AM
Any update on the CODE? :D
Not yet, I called the person handling the account and left a message today as well as an email. Hopefully in the next couple of days something will hopefully come through so folks can start reserving their respective rooms.
Post by: fiercextreme on December 01, 2015, 06:31:10 AM
Post by: Jayrat on December 01, 2015, 08:20:20 AM
We have 45 Daze to the Mojave Winter Road
it will be here quicker than we know
Post by: Celt on December 01, 2015, 10:56:18 AM
http://www.totalrewards.com/hotel-reservations?propCode=LAU&groupCode=L01SCX6
For guests that prefer to phone in their reservations, they may call our Reservation Center at 866-781-9572 to secure a reservation in your group block. Callers must use your group code to identify the group, L01SCX6. The name of your group is SCCX.
Please note that you and your guests may make reservations in the block at group rate until 01/03/2016. After that time, the group rate will be offered based on hotel availability only. Once the deadline is closer, I will also be reminding you to make any adjustments to your block as allowed by the attrition clause in your contract.
Post by: PainRoller on December 01, 2015, 12:56:37 PM
Okay - to those who have stayed at Harrahs before - is it better to book North or Central Tower?
Post by: xxSVxx on December 01, 2015, 02:03:18 PM
Okay - to those who have stayed at Harrahs before - is it better to book North or Central Tower?
Yes
:P
Post by: Alex on December 01, 2015, 02:48:22 PM
Sweet!! Thanks, Celt!! ;D ;D
Okay - to those who have stayed at Harrahs before - is it better to book North or Central Tower?
"Please note: Rates are for single or double occupancy in the North Tower Classic 1 King Bed Non-Smoking Rooms."
North Tower then?
Post by: JFanaselle on December 01, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
In reality, you can book a room wherever you want to suit your needs/taste/budget, but the group rate will very likely be for the north tower only (and again, it's probably only going to save you a couple of bucks off of the price, because that's basically their minimum price).
Post by: PainRoller on December 01, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
North tower is further away from the main casino and I believe the rooms are also a little older. That's where you'll find the cheapest rooms ($25-ish a night during the off-season).
In reality, you can book a room wherever you want to suit your needs/taste/budget, but the group rate will very likely be for the north tower only (and again, it's probably only going to save you a couple of bucks off of the price, because that's basically their minimum price).
Thanks for the info Joe! ;)
The group rate shows both North and Central Tower rooms - which is why I asked which was better.
Post by: knightrider on December 01, 2015, 04:41:50 PM
Post by: Toro on December 01, 2015, 05:45:53 PM
On the other hand, Tamarac Lodge in Mammoth is awesome about shipping the HAM radio you leave behind.
....just sayin...
Post by: knightrider on December 01, 2015, 05:59:55 PM
Sent from my rooftop tent while stargazing
Post by: jvr on December 01, 2015, 09:21:52 PM
Oops
Post by: JFanaselle on December 01, 2015, 09:47:59 PM
Post by: RBduffer on December 01, 2015, 10:53:40 PM
Thanks for easy peasy set up guys.
Post by: Alex on December 02, 2015, 12:20:47 AM
Post by: Celt on December 02, 2015, 12:51:48 AM
Post by: Jayrat on December 02, 2015, 07:42:02 AM
BOO-YA
Post by: jvr on December 02, 2015, 10:38:43 AM
Post by: knightrider on December 02, 2015, 03:54:24 PM
Post by: Celt on December 02, 2015, 06:16:59 PM
YES, people are using my completely unannounced event signup dealio. sweet.
Thanks for putting that up there, it's helpful indeed! Now as to those -21 Karma Points smartassssss........
Post by: jvr on December 07, 2015, 08:30:48 PM
Post by: Celt on December 08, 2015, 12:49:12 AM
Celt Can you add a plus 1 for me if space is available
Done
Post by: ultrapc40 on December 08, 2015, 09:58:59 AM
Post by: Celt on December 08, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
If we have to list passenger too, I will have a plus 1.
Done
Post by: jvr on December 08, 2015, 05:02:33 PM
Done
Thanks
Post by: pyrofox79 on December 08, 2015, 07:26:52 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on December 08, 2015, 08:42:50 PM
Post by: RBduffer on December 08, 2015, 10:20:00 PM
Sorry guys, I'm officially out for this trip. :(
Whaaaaaaaaat? You just got your snorkel for the river crossings :(
Post by: Celt on December 09, 2015, 12:47:39 AM
Sorry guys, I'm officially out for this trip. :(
Well were gonna miss you but I understand, if anything changes I'll get you back on the list.
Post by: Celt on December 09, 2015, 12:49:06 AM
Booked. Just gonna be me on this one. Woman is going up to a archery tournament, and decided not to bring the pup.
Archery, Schmartchery.......... You did tell her there is a vast desert out there she can do all the arrow shootin she could ever want to do right?
Post by: Jams on December 13, 2015, 07:51:52 PM
Post by: Alex on December 13, 2015, 08:47:48 PM
Ive got a question.. I've only been on 1 day runs, so I'd like to know how these 3 days runs operate.. Like, do you just wheel all day, where do you fuel, etc..The more experienced members will probably chime in with better info, but based on what I've been to so far the group does mostly overland trips wheeling for a good part of the day, stopping along the way here and there to see landmarks, do some hiking, then some cooking once we get to camp. Fueling is at the start or end of the trail, and if the trail is long enough like Mojave, bringing an extra jerry can or two is the best idea. Trail lunches are cold, things like sandwiches, and the breakfasts and dinners are usually hot - meals/cooking are individual unless something is pre-organized. Sleeping arrangements could be making use of some kind of tent, the back of the truck, using a tarp outside, pretty much anything that fits with the weather conditions.
Post by: Toro on December 13, 2015, 08:56:08 PM
The more experienced members will probably chime in with better info, but based on what I've been to so far the group does mostly overland trips wheeling for a good part of the day, stopping along the way here and there to see landmarks, do some hiking, then some cooking once we get to camp. Fueling is at the start or end of the trail, and if the trail is long enough like Mojave, bringing an extra jerry can or two is the best idea. Trail lunches are cold, things like sandwiches, and the breakfasts and dinners are usually hot - meals/cooking are individual unless something is pre-organized.Pretty much nailed it.
Just because it's 3 days, doesn't mean it's 400miles.
Every trip is different, and has different needs. The trail organizer/leader will post a, varying degree of specific, itinerary with requirements and recommendations. These are provided to keep the group moving and everyone safe.
Post by: steve c on December 13, 2015, 08:59:39 PM
Alex and Toro nailed it.
If you're bored or curious, read the planning thread of last years Mojave Road (http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php?topic=2610.0) run.
Post by: pyrofox79 on December 14, 2015, 09:01:25 AM
Post by: fourxfunk on December 14, 2015, 09:43:56 AM
Hey which one of you weirdos was saying on calguns that you were going on this? I remember a post from a month or so back on there saying that you were going on this run... guilty as charged. That was me. I'm still in but things may change in the next few days as the Mrs. is "with child". I've got to be sure her coming along is comfortable for her. I'll update my status ASAP.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on December 14, 2015, 09:55:24 AM
Post by: Sage Bromax on December 14, 2015, 12:01:33 PM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on December 14, 2015, 12:24:13 PM
Just waiting for the signed permit.
Gracias Mi Amigo.
Post by: steve c on December 14, 2015, 07:39:25 PM
Meet up times, proposed campsites etc?
This thread has grown quite a bit and I'm having a hard time going through all the posts to get the info I'm looking for.
Thanks!
Post by: Celt on December 15, 2015, 01:16:58 AM
Hey Celt, can you update the original post with confirmed dates and a rough itinerary?
Meet up times, proposed campsites etc?
This thread has grown quite a bit and I'm having a hard time going through all the posts to get the info I'm looking for.
Thanks!
Sure thing buddy,
What I planned thus far is folks to meet up at the Afton Rd. campground (Just a couple miles east on Afton Rd right off I-15) on 01/14/16. That has no real meet up time as folks will just show up when and as they can due to schedules etc. I'm hoping to be there between 1700-1800. Next morning (01/15/16) we will start the trip with the two different groups. I was thinking the first start time (mine) about 0930 the second (SageBromax) 1000 hours. Go out across the two water crossings and under the railway bridge, through the wash and out through the dry lake bed. If this is not possible due to the lake being flooded we can take the Kelbaker Rd just past Zzyzx Rd and drop down the first dirt Rd to the south and continue on to where it meets up with the Mojave Rd on the far side of the Soda Lake.
From there I know Lava Tubes etc are a big hit so I'm open to whatever the group wants to go see and visit. Continuing on I would like to make camp NLT 1530-1600 so folks aren't trying to set up camps in the dark. I was thinking the place where we all camped the last night on the last run is a good place (Beale Mountains Approx 115' 37'30"-35' 7'10") because it can easily accommodate a very large group and may provide some shelter from the wind.
Next morning (01/16/16) get up and head out (weather depending) hopefully around the same SP times 0930-1000. I'm not sure what folks might like to see on that day so ideas are appreciated at this leg of the trip. At the end of day #2 finally camping over night at Caruthers Canyon or Fourth of July Canyon depending upon if other people are in the area. This is the area we were last year and it's sheltered and forested to help protect from wind. Next morning (01/17/16) I think we could get up and moving maybe a little later because the sun won't hit those spots due to the valleys and elevation folks will be cold. Head out and stop maybe Ft. Paiute the old abandoned movie set/ghost town etc. Head on into Laughlin air up/re-fuel etc and go get your rooms at the Casino. If folks wanted to meet up for dinner somewhere, even at the casino that night I'm all open but I want to shy away from hard and fast times, locations and keep that loosely organized because people very well may be cold, grimy and very tired so a hot shower and a nap may be a priority with them. Not everyone is a shining example in the prime of their youth as I am you see (I hope you can smell the sarcasm there).
Morning of the 18th or whenever you decide to head out is on you or if you want to convoy with anyone, just work that out with them. I'm going to be in the 55-60 MPH convoy crowd headed back home. My goals for this run is to try and keep everyone together but still have it not so hard and fast organized with a bunch of rules as those will fall apart very fast. Some areas I'm firm on is making camps each night so nobody is doing that in the dark and making sure everyone is set up and safe for the cold nights ahead (I will handle that part as best I can). As to the places folks wish to visit, I'm all ears and up for whatever. My big goal is to get out in that awesome desert in the winter and have a blast with some really great people. Any problems, issues, gripes etc can be brought directly to me and I will do my best to accommodate. This is about everyone having a good time and doggonit them beatins will ensue and not stop till everyone does have a blast out there!!! Any bad attitudes will be swiftly dealt with in the Fire Jenga Court of the Mojave.
Hope that helps to answer some of your questions Amigo.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on December 15, 2015, 02:35:26 PM
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: JFanaselle on December 15, 2015, 02:48:13 PM
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/barstow/afton.html
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/barstow/camping.html
Post by: steve c on December 15, 2015, 05:02:50 PM
Post by: Sage Bromax on December 15, 2015, 05:42:06 PM
Post by: Jams on December 16, 2015, 05:44:34 PM
The more experienced members will probably chime in with better info, but based on what I've been to so far the group does mostly overland trips wheeling for a good part of the day, stopping along the way here and there to see landmarks, do some hiking, then some cooking once we get to camp. Fueling is at the start or end of the trail, and if the trail is long enough like Mojave, bringing an extra jerry can or two is the best idea. Trail lunches are cold, things like sandwiches, and the breakfasts and dinners are usually hot - meals/cooking are individual unless something is pre-organized. Sleeping arrangements could be making use of some kind of tent, the back of the truck, using a tarp outside, pretty much anything that fits with the weather conditions.
Thank you sir
Post by: Sage Bromax on December 17, 2015, 11:27:07 AM
Post by: Celt on December 17, 2015, 11:41:48 AM
Post by: Alex on December 17, 2015, 01:13:42 PM
So Red Team now officially has room for five more trucks. :)
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on December 17, 2015, 01:53:29 PM
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: RBduffer on December 17, 2015, 02:15:19 PM
Post by: Celt on December 17, 2015, 02:41:34 PM
Sweet! Is there a possibility of getting moved from team 1 to team 2?
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Oh that's easy to do, I haven't really come up with a list of who wants to go with either group yet so I'll handle that as people chime in for preferences if they have any. But I'll put you over there now.
Post by: fiercextreme on December 23, 2015, 10:06:56 PM
Post by: Celt on December 23, 2015, 10:26:18 PM
Whens last day I can book a hotel. Need to make sure I know whos coming w me first
The manager told me 01/03/16 is the last date they can be guaranteed. After that you are at the whim of the hotel guest gods.
Post by: knightrider on December 23, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
The manager told me 01/03/16 is the last date they can be guaranteed. After that you are at the whim of the hotel guest gods.
IIRC 2 years ago at the spring mohave, they did honor the group rate price for motorpig even though he did not have a reservation, i think it just depends on how busy they are and what side of the bed the front desk person woke up on. :)
Post by: Celt on December 24, 2015, 12:03:27 AM
IIRC 2 years ago at the spring mohave, they did honor the group rate price for motorpig even though he did not have a reservation, i think it just depends on how busy they are and what side of the bed the front desk person woke up on. :)
Yes, she told me she can guarantee the rates up to the 3rd but after that it's going to be subject to availability and no guarantees because other large groups may want blocked rooms etc. I think most shouldn't have issues getting a room and if it's a late comer I can always contact her directly and request she please extend the rates past the cutoff date but I would prefer guys try and book them now if possible.
Post by: ultrapc40 on December 28, 2015, 01:55:03 PM
I plan to arrive at the campgrounds Friday morning. Anyone leaving from Orange County Friday morning want to caravan out to the campground? I am assuming 3hrs of travel time, to account for fuel ups and pre trip BS. That would put us at departing the OC around 530 - 600, get there a little early for more pre trip BS with a bigger group.
Some quick links so I can reference to it later.
Fuel, it might be a good idea to fuel up off Daggett-Yermo road before heading to the Afton Canyon campgrounds, that appears to be the last exit before gas prices skyrockets.
Link to Gas station
https://www.google.com/maps/place/76/@34.8998677,-116.8883519,15.58z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1sgas+station!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xdd6a9f89974875c0 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/76/@34.8998677,-116.8883519,15.58z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1sgas+station!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xdd6a9f89974875c0)
Link to Afton Canyon Campground (Starting point)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Afton+Canyon+Campground/@35.0388725,-116.3850137,17z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1safton+canyon!3m1!1s0x80c5a93a25f7eec7:0xc9d4b36439820b3d (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Afton+Canyon+Campground/@35.0388725,-116.3850137,17z/data=!4m5!1m2!2m1!1safton+canyon!3m1!1s0x80c5a93a25f7eec7:0xc9d4b36439820b3d)
Day 1 POI
Lava Tube (35.213776, -115.753147)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lava+Tube+Mojave+Desert/@35.2164424,-115.7520537,135m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x0:0x0!2zMzXCsDEyJzQ5LjYiTiAxMTXCsDQ1JzExLjMiVw!3b1!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x2cbb08f914b5b15a (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Lava+Tube+Mojave+Desert/@35.2164424,-115.7520537,135m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x0:0x0!2zMzXCsDEyJzQ5LjYiTiAxMTXCsDQ1JzExLjMiVw!3b1!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0x2cbb08f914b5b15a)
Camping Night One (Beale Mountains Approx. 35.0700519,-115.3793846,991) ETA 1530-1600; Depart 0930-1000
https://www.google.com/maps/place/35%C2%B004'15.6%22N+115%C2%B022'22.8%22W/@35.0700519,-115.3793846,991m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/35%C2%B004'15.6%22N+115%C2%B022'22.8%22W/@35.0700519,-115.3793846,991m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0)
Camping Night Two (two options)
Caruthers Canyon (35.2543122,-115.6001223)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Caruthers+Canyon,+California+92364/@35.2543122,-115.6001223,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x80cf9ff913738a5d:0x878253269f62cf87 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Caruthers+Canyon,+California+92364/@35.2543122,-115.6001223,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x80cf9ff913738a5d:0x878253269f62cf87)
Or
Forth of July Canyon (35.2246021,-115.3504341)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fourth+of+July+Canyon,+California+92364/@35.2246021,-115.3504341,225m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x80cf75be113bf769:0x8050901b84811088 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fourth+of+July+Canyon,+California+92364/@35.2246021,-115.3504341,225m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x80cf75be113bf769:0x8050901b84811088)
POI Day 3
Fort Paiute (35.1149106,-114.9874133)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fort+Paiute/@35.1149106,-114.9874133,857m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x80cfb208c488d70f:0xf0a15c519823ec2e (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fort+Paiute/@35.1149106,-114.9874133,857m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x80cfb208c488d70f:0xf0a15c519823ec2e)
Hope those waypoints checks out.....
Post by: Alex on December 28, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
Mojave Road Route (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/35555+Ghost+Town+Rd,+Yermo,+CA+92398/Afton+Canyon+Campground/35.080439,-116.1963372/35%C2%B012'49.6%22N+115%C2%B045'11.3%22W/35%C2%B004'15.6%22N+115%C2%B022'22.8%22W/Caruthers+Canyon/Fourth+of+July+Canyon/Fort+Paiute/Harrah's+Laughlin+Casino+%26+Hotel/@35.0639846,-116.2921363,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m81!4m80!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c46163eca169c1:0xf64de45df8c925b2!2m2!1d-116.886401!2d34.9040674!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c5a93a25f7eec7:0xc9d4b36439820b3d!2m2!1d-116.382825!2d35.0388681!1m15!3m4!1m2!1d-116.1115408!2d35.1185597!3s0x80c5a3dd8ff7fd11:0x596e48e641dd2afb!3m4!1m2!1d-116.0193026!2d35.1601866!3s0x80c598ecae4ae7b5:0x7a41d0e79bf09c8b!3m4!1m2!1d-115.9844349!2d35.1687354!3s0x80c5990e090232af:0x668a5eb91a5a0319!1m20!1m1!1s0x0:0x0!2m2!1d-115.7531389!2d35.2137778!3m4!1m2!1d-115.7247558!2d35.1780163!3s0x80c581167fd2adef:0x3507a884fe35a12e!3m4!1m2!1d-115.6499923!2d35.1758774!3s0x80cf7fd2e9b9f525:0xdde4ca3ce80475dc!3m4!1m2!1d-115.5659521!2d35.1865631!3s0x80cf7f23d64230c9:0x5ee90749ce1bbcbc!1m5!1m1!1s0x0:0x0!2m2!1d-115.373!2d35.071!1m5!1m1!1s0x80cf9ff913738a5d:0x878253269f62cf87!2m2!1d-115.2880419!2d35.2102676!1m5!1m1!1s0x80cf75be113bf769:0x8050901b84811088!2m2!1d-115.3499885!2d35.224711!1m5!1m1!1s0x80cfb208c488d70f:0xf0a15c519823ec2e!2m2!1d-114.9852222!2d35.1149063!1m5!1m1!1s0x80ce43c9bf28d2b1:0xb1b2ddac769f12c2!2m2!1d-114.5765662!2d35.1441192!3e0)
I followed what was marked as the Mojave Road/Government Road as much as possible.
Post by: Celt on December 29, 2015, 01:11:13 AM
Post by: JFanaselle on December 30, 2015, 02:59:10 AM
You just go about another 2 miles up the road past the lava tubes. You should have plenty of time to hit the tubes and the mine before heading to the first camp site of the night, especially if you're entering the preserve off of Kellbaker road if the Mojave River is too deep to cross. Just a suggestion. :)
See the thread from the trip last year if you want to see photos of the mine: http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php?topic=3041.15
Post by: Celt on December 30, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on December 31, 2015, 12:07:45 PM
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HIOMVI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
Post by: RikRong on December 31, 2015, 12:26:24 PM
Hey guys, I'm looking at different cargo carrying options...I have a hitch mounted basket that comes up to about bumper level. Will I have enough clearance for the trip?I'd be worried about how much that basket would rattle when driving at speed off-road.
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HIOMVI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on December 31, 2015, 12:42:20 PM
(http://)
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on January 01, 2016, 05:15:15 PM
Post by: Toro on January 02, 2016, 06:59:22 PM
Post by: Ghost65 on January 03, 2016, 05:37:05 AM
Having that out back will be a lever on your rear suspension. Heavy things out there + a load in the rig will sag/destroy an OE suspension. I would not recommend a loaded cooler out there.
Agreed. Roadworthy maybe, but this type of travel (130 miles of off road dirt) will take it's toll on that hitch mounted device.
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 04, 2016, 11:02:18 AM
Post by: Celt on January 04, 2016, 11:14:41 AM
Slight change of plans. I will be driving to Afton on Thursday, camping Thursday night, take off Friday with the group in the morning. I will be breaking off with the group Saturday to return home.
No worries, stay as long as you wish.
Post by: PainRoller on January 04, 2016, 11:23:58 AM
Slight change of plans. I will be driving to Afton on Thursday, camping Thursday night, take off Friday with the group in the morning. I will be breaking off with the group Saturday to return home.
Yep - us too. Flying to Portland Sunday for work. But didn't want to cancel this trip completely. Huge thanks for accommodating our plan needs, ultrpc40! ;)
Can't wait to try out the new Roof rack and sleeping bags we got for Christmas! Woot! 8)
Post by: pyrofox79 on January 06, 2016, 09:59:40 AM
Post by: Celt on January 06, 2016, 11:37:17 AM
Post by: DannyX on January 06, 2016, 11:38:29 AM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on January 06, 2016, 11:56:21 AM
Post by: pyrofox79 on January 06, 2016, 08:25:40 PM
Yeah, me too I've been slowly moving in that direction as well. I have to work this weekend so it's going to be the mad dash next Wednesday to get loaded up.
Yea I have to work Saturday. So Sunday it is for getting stuff ready
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 06, 2016, 11:34:58 PM
Post by: PainRoller on January 06, 2016, 11:41:05 PM
Just got 2x8 gallons and 2x24 gallon Actuon packer for cargo management.
Nice! Those Action Packers are very handy. They certainly help keep us organized.
Post by: DannyX on January 07, 2016, 07:01:07 AM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 07, 2016, 07:20:42 AM
here is where it's in Dec before the rain http://youtu.be/8QhrRDk59P4 (http://youtu.be/8QhrRDk59P4)
I would assume we will have to bypass the lake all together, afton canyon is going to be a soupy mess.
Post by: Jayrat on January 07, 2016, 08:31:12 AM
I am concern about the river crossing.Thanks for Sharing,
here is where it's in Dec before the rain http://youtu.be/8QhrRDk59P4 (http://youtu.be/8QhrRDk59P4)
I would assume we will have to bypass the lake all together, afton canyon is going to be a soupy mess.
it's amazing how fast some of them hit that water, I'm surprised nobody else stalled
Post by: Toro on January 07, 2016, 09:21:49 AM
Post by: Celt on January 07, 2016, 12:13:40 PM
I am concern about the river crossing.
here is where it's in Dec before the rain http://youtu.be/8QhrRDk59P4 (http://youtu.be/8QhrRDk59P4)
I would assume we will have to bypass the lake all together, afton canyon is going to be a soupy mess.
The two river crossings are fed by an under ground river and they surface twice along our route. While it's a little unnerving doing any water crossing that's about how deep the water was the last Toro led run as my memory serves. The rivers are crossable but as you saw in those videos you have to go very slow to ensure you don't stall or flood your engine which would be bad. Since I began organizing this trip, I have attempted to let people know this is a winter run and yes things may very well be a soupy mess. I will not knowingly put anyone in a dangerous situation along this run but the drivers and vehicles mettle may be tested. I have been keeping a sharp eye on conditions and because things can change in minutes out there Soda Lake may have to be bypassed. As unfortunate as that may be I will not lead a group through that if it's a quagmire. This trip is going to be a lot of fun I believe and all I ask is everyone bring a positive attitude and be very patient and flexible as we have vehicles and driver's of varying capabilities and experience. Thanks for posting your concerns and I hope this helped to put your mind at ease!
Post by: Celt on January 07, 2016, 12:45:48 PM
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 07, 2016, 12:57:30 PM
The plus side of rain is NO DUST!!!
I am going to keep an ear out for anyone heading out to Mohave road to get condition update and share anything I hear back on this site.
Thanks again for setting it up.
Post by: DannyX on January 07, 2016, 12:58:26 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: RikRong on January 07, 2016, 01:30:05 PM
Post by: Celt on January 07, 2016, 01:59:06 PM
Obviously, I can't speak directly to the conditions on the Road, as I haven't been out there, but here are some general observations. As I watched the storms move out of here this week, they moved pretty much directly west, towards the direction of Mojave Rd. We have standing water everywhere up here and the ditches are full. The most important part, though, is that the Roger's and Muroc lake beds both have a few feet of standing water and/or are mud pits right now. If they got even remotely close to the same amount of rain as we did here, that lake will be a mess.
Noted, as I have mentioned this trip is flexible on the route because of weather but it is a winter trip and was planned for as such to be in the elements.
Post by: PainRoller on January 07, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
My take-away from this convo is: (and correct me if I'm wrong)
1. Keep packing, the trip is still a "green light"
2. No need to panic just yet, we have alternative routes
3. No need to pre-wash Pepe, it's gonna be a fun mucky mess
Post by: Celt on January 07, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
I'm happy to see the group is having a convo about the current conditions and possible alternatives.
My take-away from this convo is: (and correct me if I'm wrong)
1. Keep packing, the trip is still a "green light"
2. No need to panic just yet, we have alternative routes
3. No need to pre-wash Pepe, it's gonna be a fun mucky mess
Exactly.............
Post by: PainRoller on January 07, 2016, 02:07:00 PM
the drivers and vehicles mettle may be tested.
Oops! Forgot #4: Bring an extra pair of shorts..... ;)
Celt - we are really looking forward to this trip! And we are thankful for all your pre-planning to make this a successful adventure for the group! :D
Post by: Celt on January 07, 2016, 02:08:27 PM
Post by: PainRoller on January 07, 2016, 02:55:28 PM
For those camping on the 14th, it would be in Afton Canyon?
Yes, I thought Afton Canyon campground would be easy enough to get to for most of the people attending the night before even if they have to leave after work. It seems big enough and has minor facilities that can accommodate a group this large. It's also a good place to begin from where anyone that has to meet up in the morning can easily find it.
Who all is camping on the 14th? O0
Just bought a 8 Qt Stock Pot. It should do the trick.....
If you wouldn't mind using it for the cause, I will provide everything else.
Thanks much!
Celt- Even tho we are leaving Sat, I am still bringing the pot! I'll leave it with the group for Sat night cocoa fun. Maybe someone can store it until I can get it? (cough, Duffer? cough, cough)
Also, as a reminder (to myself and the hams group) - Bromax created a really nice comms plan on pg 11 of this thread..... ;)
Post by: Celt on January 07, 2016, 03:19:09 PM
"Celt- Even tho we are leaving Sat, I am still bringing the pot!"
--I know this is California and all but were not going to a Bob Marley concert were off roading.
"Maybe someone can store it until I can get it? (cough, Duffer? cough, cough)"
--If he gets caught he would get jammed up holding for you wouldn't he?
Post by: PainRoller on January 07, 2016, 03:54:18 PM
"Celt- Even tho we are leaving Sat, I am still bringing the pot!"
--I know this is California and all but were not going to a Bob Marley concert were off roading.
"Maybe someone can store it until I can get it? (cough, Duffer? cough, cough)"
--If he gets caught he would get jammed up holding for you wouldn't he?
Well played, sir, well played....... O0
Post by: xxSVxx on January 07, 2016, 03:57:03 PM
"Celt- Even tho we are leaving Sat, I am still bringing the pot!"
--I know this is California and all but were not going to a Bob Marley concert were off roading.
"Maybe someone can store it until I can get it? (cough, Duffer? cough, cough)"
--If he gets caught he would get jammed up holding for you wouldn't he?
That whole exchange sounds like an episode of '3's Company'
Post by: DannyX on January 07, 2016, 03:57:40 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Jayrat on January 07, 2016, 04:06:23 PM
We've Been waiting for you
Where the Kisses are hers and hers and his....
Post by: PainRoller on January 07, 2016, 04:14:06 PM
Come and Knock on my Door
We've Been waiting for you
Where the Kisses are hers and hers and his....
Ooooooohhhhh fook ......I just actually sang this out loud...... ::) ::)
Post by: Celt on January 07, 2016, 04:53:57 PM
Post by: RBduffer on January 07, 2016, 10:25:32 PM
Top 5 reasons that I'm in:
1. It's the Mohave Road, Hello!
2. It's a great line-up. All the cool kids are here 8)
3. I've never done this trip west to east. I am gonna clog that hotel shower drain with trail dirt.
4. Because it's raining and posibly flooding.
a. great dust control
b. new adventure
c. my truck is already dirty
5. If I didn't go, I would kick my own ass every time I read a post about how cool it was to BE THERE!
There are dreamers, there are talkers, and then there are the doers. I want to be a big Doer!!!
Post by: Celt on January 07, 2016, 11:01:34 PM
Post by: jvr on January 08, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
OK, just to make it official, I am deffinitely in.
Top 5 reasons that I'm in:
1. It's the Mohave Road, Hello!
2. It's a great line-up. All the cool kids are here 8)
3. I've never done this trip west to east. I am gonna clog that hotel shower drain with trail dirt.
4. Because it's raining and posibly flooding.
a. great dust control
b. new adventure
c. my truck is already dirty
5. If I didn't go, I would kick my own ass every time I read a post about how cool it was to BE THERE!
There are dreamers, there are talkers, and then there are the doers. I want to be a big Doer!!!
Where's the like button
Post by: JFanaselle on January 08, 2016, 01:40:04 PM
Over the past 7 days, the areas of Soda Lake and Afton Canyon have received between 1.0 and 2.0 inches of rain. This is A LOT of rain for that region of the desert, which only sees about 3 inches a year on average, maybe 4 to 5 inches during a really heavy year.
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
The lake bed itself is probably not flooded, but it will be a very muddy quagmire, especially since there won't be any warm weather between now and then to dry it out any. The canyon portion of the road (everything between the river crossing and the dry lake bed, since you'll be heading west to east) likely had considerable runoff and could have some significant erosion, but again, I wouldn't expect there to be much standing water anywhere. Probably some large puddles, and that's it.
The river level has a monitoring station at the Afton Canyon crossing. The crossing is currently sitting at 3.71 feet deep (having peaked at 3.77 at about 1:00 am on Thursday morning), which is mid-grill or hood-line height on most of our Xterras. It could reside a little before the trip, but we're also expected to get a little more rain on Saturday, so that could keep it pretty much where it is now.
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
I would expect that you guys are going to have to go around, and I would suggest taking the 15 to Kelbaker Road (you can fuel up in Baker), and heading east for about 12 miles on the pavement before you intersect the Mojave Road. You can pick up the rest of the route from there, having bypassed Afton Canyon and Soda Lake. I know you guys want some adventure, but this kind of stuff scares the crap out of me. This is probably just the former firefighter in me, but my strong recommendation would be to just make that decision now, before someone gets stuck in a deep mud puddle and ties up your entire day recovering, destroys their engine sucking in water, slides down a slope and overturns, or gets stuck or swept away trying to cross the river (the water doesn't move fast, but 4 feet of slow moving water has tremendous amounts of momentum and force). It just doesn't seem like a risk worth taking, and I know I certainly wouldn't subject my wife and son to those kinds of risks for the sake of adventure and fun.
Please, don't take that advice the wrong way, and remember that I am not going on this trip so I have no skin in this game. Therefore, my opinion doesn't matter as much as your guys', I'm just trying to make you aware of every piece of information available in our high tech world. If you guys want to camp at Afton Canyon and send a scout or two up the road to cross the river and travel the canyon and look out over the lake bed, that might also be a good idea. They can radio back to the main group and you guys can always make the decision to go around if it's too bad at any point. It's also possible that you won't be able to talk (even on ham) because of the canyon, so keep that in mind as well.
You guys can monitor the river station at this link: http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=vef&gage=mjrc1
Here's a video someone posted to YouTube a few days ago of a trip they took over the New Year's holiday. The water is a tad higher than it was in the video Randy posted, and this was before the 2 inches of rain fell in the area (river crossing is at about the 20 seconds mark). Assuming that these guys' tires are about 32-33 inches tall, I'd say the river crossing is probably right about 2.9 - 3.1 feet in this video. Remember that it's up to 3.71 now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SfSeFYbEZY
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 08, 2016, 02:01:46 PM
Post by: Celt on January 08, 2016, 04:00:52 PM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 08, 2016, 04:03:57 PM
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on January 08, 2016, 04:16:26 PM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 08, 2016, 04:25:25 PM
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 08, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
Post by: RBduffer on January 08, 2016, 06:58:35 PM
BTW. Those river crossing videos were taken by knuckle heads. The clown doing the first video told the driver to STOP. You should NEVER stop in a river crossing. The only car to get stuck was going too fast for a POS vehicle with points and condenser ignition (pre 1970 era). I have personally gone through that crossing in 2nd gear with my windshield wipers on. Also there is NO current there, it's a low spot in a puddle that goes on for acres.
As far as these river crossings go, we probably won't do them anyway if we go around Soda lake. Which is very likely at this point. Then we have the whole thousand square miles of dustless desert fun ahead of us. This is gonna be soooo much fun :D
Post by: Jayrat on January 08, 2016, 11:02:02 PM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 08, 2016, 11:05:18 PM
Great call Eric. Scubadale sounds like just the man to check out possible DEEP water puddles >:DThanks for the confidence, lol. Since I'm a stock pro4x, I highly doubt I'll be making any attempts in crossing high waters
BTW. Those river crossing videos were taken by knuckle heads. The clown doing the first video told the driver to STOP. You should NEVER stop in a river crossing. The only car to get stuck was going too fast for a POS vehicle with points and condenser ignition (pre 1970 era). I have personally gone through that crossing in 2nd gear with my windshield wipers on. Also there is NO current there, it's a low spot in a puddle that goes on for acres.
As far as these river crossings go, we probably won't do them anyway if we go around Soda lake. Which is very likely at this point. Then we have the whole thousand square miles of dustless desert fun ahead of us. This is gonna be soooo much fun :D
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on January 09, 2016, 09:33:58 AM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 09, 2016, 09:35:33 AM
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on January 10, 2016, 02:00:11 AM
I know! I'm so excited I decided to do an Ocotillo Wells trip today!
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
I might be derailing my own thread but that's ok because I buy myself my own beer. How did the Ocotillo trip go? I love it down there this time of year.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 10, 2016, 07:42:03 AM
I might be derailing my own thread but that's ok because I buy myself my own beer. How did the Ocotillo trip go? I love it down there this time of year.Well...it went ok. My friend took his sand rail over a large bump, almost flipped it end over end, and ended up snapping both the rear hubs right off! Had to put the rear end on my hitch and row him back, which took 2 hours.
All in all, it was fun. It was really muddy from all of the recent rain, which turned out to be a lot of fun to play around in. It made realize a few things I need to buy and need to bring for our trip to the Mojave!!!
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: Motorpig77 on January 10, 2016, 09:40:39 AM
Post by: Celt on January 10, 2016, 10:32:40 AM
Well, as Murphy always seem to pop up at horrible times... I'm going to have to cancel on this trip. My best buddy's wife decided she wanted to turn 50 this Saturday and I've been guilt tripped into going... I'll miss the fun but the repercussions of going are severe! You guys have fun and be safe out there
You know for this you not only get your man card punched but also your issued club card and will have to go back to the Newbie status.
Post by: Celt on January 10, 2016, 10:37:41 AM
TWO BUNDLES OF WOOD
. Planning ahead makes it a little easier for me but in the end the only thing I really will need to get is a head count so nobody gets left behind somewhere out there.
Post by: Sage Bromax on January 10, 2016, 10:55:39 AM
Post by: Celt on January 10, 2016, 11:02:56 AM
Made it back from Yellowstone late yesterday. Time to get all the snow schmutz off the X and start prepping for next weekend. I will be leaving work early Thursday and hope to be at camp before dark. I got a new, bigger tent cot for Christmas and am looking forward to breaking it in.
Did you say hello to Yogi Bear while you were there?
Post by: FixItGuy on January 10, 2016, 06:56:46 PM
Did you say hello to Yogi Bear while you were there?
No no.... that's in New Hampshire.... I read about it on Facebook ;)
(http://www.woodallscm.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Yogi-and-Friends.jpg)
Post by: Toro on January 10, 2016, 11:48:30 PM
No no.... that's in New Hampshire.... I read about it on Facebook ;)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/b4b5d9054c7460c71dc2998a01f1f530.jpg)
Post by: Celt on January 11, 2016, 12:30:48 AM
Post by: Celt on January 11, 2016, 09:45:45 AM
Post by: Jayrat on January 12, 2016, 08:05:50 AM
Post by: Celt on January 12, 2016, 11:46:48 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on January 13, 2016, 06:08:31 AM
Post by: Celt on January 13, 2016, 07:48:14 AM
Dude... that's cheaper than the gas station on the corner by my house. Not bad at all for the middle of the desert.
That's exactly what I was thinking too, just goes to show you how much $$ they add onto the price of fuel here.....
Post by: Jayrat on January 13, 2016, 08:34:58 AM
Post by: Celt on January 13, 2016, 08:46:09 AM
It was $2.04 in Tucson this weekend
Gotta love the taxes and price gouging. Federal gas tax 18.4 cents a gallon State gas tax 42.26 cents= 79.06 cents for each and every gallon you buy. On the average I'm paying about $18 a tank in taxes alone.
Post by: pyrofox79 on January 13, 2016, 09:32:49 AM
Post by: Celt on January 13, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
Time to prepare for the packing marathon!!!!
I just got home and am going to get things started too. Have my hands full though prepping two vehicles...blech!
1 DAY TO MOJAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 13, 2016, 05:09:54 PM
I just got home and am going to get things started too. Have my hands full though prepping two vehicles...blech!
1 DAY TO MOJAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't wait to head out on the road tomorrow! I know it was mentioned before, but I don't really want to go through all the threads. Where is the nearest gas station to the campground?
Post by: Sage Bromax on January 13, 2016, 05:49:40 PM
Can't wait to head out on the road tomorrow! I know it was mentioned before, but I don't really want to go through all the threads. Where is the nearest gas station to the campground?Yermo. About five miles east of Barstow on the 15. There are three gas stations, a Jack in the Box, and Peggy Sue's diner
Post by: PainRoller on January 13, 2016, 06:22:20 PM
We are leaving tomorrow morning, super early, to get a fun-filled day of wheelin' in before this trip officially begins!
We are running Cuddeback Rd to Husky Monument to Inscription Canyon to Rainbow Basin. It's a long day, but we still expect to make camp in Afton Campground around 4pm.
Looking forward to wheeling and camping with this group! Yee-Haw!! :D
Post by: FixItGuy on January 13, 2016, 07:07:26 PM
Wah-Hooooo! So excited for this adventure to begin!
(http://www.off-road.com/images/content/8-Answerman-Off-Road-Truck-SUV-Questions-10-22-12.jpg)
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 13, 2016, 07:28:49 PM
I almost decided to bring the dodge. I need more bed space.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/13/53fc88a56b27b5f3b3b92f346fbed688.jpg)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on January 13, 2016, 07:29:32 PM
Can't wait to head out on the road tomorrow! I know it was mentioned before, but I don't really want to go through all the threads. Where is the nearest gas station to the campground?
Yermo Ca, closest fuel station and prices are currently around $2.76
Post by: Celt on January 13, 2016, 07:34:14 PM
Wah-Hooooo! So excited for this adventure to begin!
We are leaving tomorrow morning, super early, to get a fun-filled day of wheelin' in before this trip officially begins!
We are running Cuddeback Rd to Husky Monument to Inscription Canyon to Rainbow Basin. It's a long day, but we still expect to make camp in Afton Campground around 4pm.
Looking forward to wheeling and camping with this group! Yee-Haw!! :D
When you are out that way if you run across anyone please try and get some Soda Lake intel. Both the parks service and BLM have been 100% useless saying they don't know which I find absolutely amazing that nobody has been out there or no reports coming in.
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 13, 2016, 07:42:09 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on January 13, 2016, 07:56:58 PM
Fyi we can take afton out then evaluate soda lake. If it's not passable we can by pass it using basin road.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think that's a fine idea, all I'm after is a little pre-run knowledge if we can get it.
Post by: FixItGuy on January 13, 2016, 08:11:53 PM
Post by: fiercextreme on January 14, 2016, 01:55:58 AM
Garett
Post by: JFanaselle on January 14, 2016, 08:53:04 AM
Can't wait to see some photos.
Post by: Toro on January 14, 2016, 10:40:08 AM
Bummed we're missing it.
Post by: jvr on January 14, 2016, 11:35:19 AM
Post by: Celt on January 14, 2016, 12:40:57 PM
Post by: SoCalXTerry on January 14, 2016, 12:52:45 PM
I'm sorry but BlackWidow and I are going to have to drop out of this most delightful adventure. Remember as Ghostx says: Pictures or it didn't happen.
Be careful all and don't do anything I wouldn't do. Oh wait!! Nevermind. >:D Have fun!!!!!!
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 14, 2016, 02:56:18 PM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 14, 2016, 03:38:40 PM
Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk
Post by: Alex on January 14, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Post by: ghenderson21 on January 14, 2016, 05:51:27 PM
Post by: PainRoller on January 16, 2016, 06:36:10 PM
Had to bail out today, as planned, but was still super bummed to be separated from this great group of guys and gals. Really enjoyed meeting everybody. :)
Thanks Celt for putting together such an amazing event. :D :D
And thanks, Ultrapc40, for making sure we found our way home safely. Irene's rice crispy treats are da'bomb!! ;)
Bromax, tried to reach you a couple of times (just for funsies) on the Barstow repeater with no success. :-\
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 17, 2016, 09:11:07 AM
Post by: FixItGuy on January 17, 2016, 10:17:59 AM
Post by: pyrofox79 on January 17, 2016, 06:38:08 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on January 17, 2016, 08:03:56 PM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 18, 2016, 11:20:36 AM
Post by: Jayrat on January 18, 2016, 12:35:46 PM
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
[ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 18, 2016, 02:26:40 PM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 18, 2016, 02:42:55 PM
Irene got her first real Offroad wheel time and took on a hill climb that I normally wouldn't even take.(I blame Barbara)
Post by: RBduffer on January 18, 2016, 05:46:20 PM
Post by: Celt on January 18, 2016, 08:38:49 PM
Thank you!
In my opinion the credit shouldn't go to the guy who organizes everything, it's to the supporting members on the run who just make it super easy.
Post by: Celt on January 19, 2016, 02:03:10 PM
(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/Celt5494/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160115_165321_zpsbrcdbmba.jpg)(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/Celt5494/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160115_130633_zpsr1n3bvmb.jpg)(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae354/Celt5494/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160115_165327_zpshjh7efu6.jpg)
Post by: Celt on January 19, 2016, 02:10:56 PM
Green Goon
:'(Mark 1107 and Nia
:'(DanyX
:'(ShanleX
:'(Hope you guys aren't still out wandering the desert looking for Afton Canyon Campground?????
Post by: RBduffer on January 20, 2016, 09:23:59 AM
Post by: Sage Bromax on January 20, 2016, 11:43:38 AM
Firestone rear suspension air bags - http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4587
LA Police Gear flashlight - http://www.lapolicegear.com/lapg-fl-enforcer-l1-rechargeable.html#_ga=1.100527006.1026001648.1452541469
Laser pointer - http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Miles-532nm-5mw-303-Green-Laser-Pointer-Lazer-Pen-Beam-Light-2-18650-Charger-/161827474173?hash=item25adab4afd:g:jEMAAOSwHnFVwiJp
Hidden winch mount by RockyMtnX - http://www.thenewx.org/forum/78-members-product-sale/39914-mps-rockymtnx-factory-bumper-winch-mount.html
Post by: Celt on January 20, 2016, 12:14:20 PM
I promised to post some links to some gear I had with me:
Firestone rear suspension air bags - http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4587
LA Police Gear flashlight - http://www.lapolicegear.com/lapg-fl-enforcer-l1-rechargeable.html#_ga=1.100527006.1026001648.1452541469
Laser pointer - http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Miles-532nm-5mw-303-Green-Laser-Pointer-Lazer-Pen-Beam-Light-2-18650-Charger-/161827474173?hash=item25adab4afd:g:jEMAAOSwHnFVwiJp
Hidden winch mount by RockyMtnX - http://www.thenewx.org/forum/78-members-product-sale/39914-mps-rockymtnx-factory-bumper-winch-mount.html
What about your Canadian made collapsible Fire Jenga grabber chingus thingy?
Post by: Sage Bromax on January 20, 2016, 12:26:17 PM
What about your Canadian made collapsible Fire Jenga grabber chingus thingy?
http://www.coghlans.com/products/extendible-fire-poker-1577
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 20, 2016, 04:36:08 PM
I promised to post some links to some gear I had with me:
Firestone rear suspension air bags - http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4587
LA Police Gear flashlight - http://www.lapolicegear.com/lapg-fl-enforcer-l1-rechargeable.html#_ga=1.100527006.1026001648.1452541469
Laser pointer - http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Miles-532nm-5mw-303-Green-Laser-Pointer-Lazer-Pen-Beam-Light-2-18650-Charger-/161827474173?hash=item25adab4afd:g:jEMAAOSwHnFVwiJp
Hidden winch mount by RockyMtnX - http://www.thenewx.org/forum/78-members-product-sale/39914-mps-rockymtnx-factory-bumper-winch-mount.html
Thanks Tony! Definitely want to look into those air bags.
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 27, 2016, 08:11:42 PM
Thanks guys...I just bought a CB and thought that was it...now I have to learn about something completely different! O0
Post by: Celt on January 28, 2016, 08:49:16 AM
Post by: steve c on January 28, 2016, 10:31:42 AM
Post by: Celt on January 28, 2016, 10:34:22 AM
There are a distinct lack of pictures from this run. Lacking commentary, too. WTH?
I was driving so I wasn't able to get many pictures unfortunately. I think people didn't comment too much because they had a horrible time and walked away throwing their suckers in the dirt mumbling about cold tootsies or some such.
Post by: ultrapc40 on January 28, 2016, 11:00:30 AM
Post by: Celt on January 28, 2016, 11:04:00 AM
Joe didn't go....
Edie would go...........
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 28, 2016, 11:15:03 AM
Post by: PainRoller on January 28, 2016, 11:17:06 AM
There are a distinct lack of pictures from this run. Lacking commentary, too. WTH?
Our 2 photographers (cough, Joe and Steve (yes you), cough cough) didn't go...
I did take some, but they are still on my phone. And banging my phone on the table doesn't seem to make them come out...
(http://rnsoftwareblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/technologically-challenged-grandparents-meme-did-you-make-sure-to-take-two-pictures-so-you-can-give-one-to-me.jpg)
Some pics are posted over here Mojave Road Winter Deal (http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php?topic=3564.0)
Post by: PainRoller on January 28, 2016, 11:19:44 AM
I just got a grip of photos from AJ(A.K.A. #2) last night. I'll upload later this evening..need to resize.
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/37706319.jpg)
The 3 of you need to attend more Xcursions... y'all hilarious! :D :D
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 28, 2016, 11:50:08 AM
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on January 28, 2016, 11:51:02 AM
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/37706319.jpg)
The 3 of you need to attend more Xcursions... y'all hilarious! :D :D
Don't worry...we caught the bug. I showed my other half the photos from the trip, and she wants to catch the next run.