Post by: PainRoller on October 12, 2015, 09:02:37 PM
Year: 2009
Model: Xterra
Trim: S
Packages: Tech and X Gear
Color: Red Alert
MODS
Removed:
Mud Flaps
OEM Step Rails
Back Seats
Interior:
Coverpking Neosupreme Seat Covers
WeatherTech Floor Mats (Front & Back)
Raingler Front (https://raingler.com/collections/nissan/products/upper-half-divider-nissan-xterra)and Rear (https://raingler.com/collections/nissan/products/xterra-barrier-net)Seat Divider Nets
Shovel and Axe mounted on Rear Gate
Exterior:
Front Runner SlimLine Rack - Danny's "Hella Low" Mod Upgrade
Snorkel with OEM airbox
Hella Super Tone Horn aka "Get the Fook out of my way" Horn
OffRoad Gorilla Hood Gas Strut Kit (http://"http://www.offroadgorilla.com/shop/nissan-hood-gas-strut-kit-hood-rod-eliminator")
Rear Diff Breather Extension Mod (http://www.thenewx.org/forum/15-how-tos/54-how-install-rear-diff-breather-extension.html)
Evap Canister Breather Mod (http://www.thenewx.org/forum/15-how-tos/75314-how-solve-evap-canister-problem-%245-%2Acpl%2A.html)
Backup Camera
Armor:
White Knuckle Rock Sliders (http://"http://white-knuckleoffroad.com/nissanxterra.htm")
Hefty Fabworks (http://"http://www.heftyfabworks.com/") Skid Plates (Full Set)
Hefty Front Bumper
Hefty Back Dual Swing Arm Bumper (Tire Carrier/Jerry Cans)
Shrock Rear Diff Cover
Suspension, Tires, & Brakes:
PRG OME Leaf Springs (including shackles, Radflo's, and U-Bolt Flip Kit (replaces PRG 2.5" Dual AAL's w/ shims)
Radflo 2.0 Coilovers w/750lb Springs (http://"http://www.prgproducts.com/shop/product/xterra-rf-20-coilovers/")
Cam Bolts
BF Goodrich AT KO2's 285/75/16
Raybestos AT Rotors and AT Pads
Melt MOD
Recovery & Safety:
Smittybilt 12K Winch
Hi-Lift Jack
Shackles
Snatch Strap (http://sccxterra.com/smf/index.php?topic=3238.0) (Thanks guys!!) ;D
Tree Strap
Snatch Block
Fire Distinguisher
On Board Air:
ARB Dual Air Compressor
Front and Rear Air Chucks (on bumpers)
Frank-N-Tank (in spare wheel compartment)
Lights & Electrical:
BlueSea Terminal Box
OTRATTW Switches
Engine Compartment Lights
42"Curved LED Light Bar Spot Flood Combo
Amber Light Bar (front grill)
RED LED's (Interior Lights)
Rear Cabin Lights
Rear Corner Lights
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/749/22097927406_8731fbea45_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zEHDWo)
Communications:
CB Radio w/ Antenna
Yaesu FT-8900R Quad Band Ham Radio w/ Tri Band Antenna
Eye Candy:
WeatherTech Window Deflectors (http://"http://www.weathertech.com/nissan/2009/xterra/side-window-deflectors/")
Corners and Grill Painted Black
Front Nissan Burger - Red w/ Black Letters
Vigg's Hood Blackout (http://"http://viggdesigns.com/shop-online/15562992#")
Camping & Overlanding:
Roof Top Tent w/ Annex
Front Runner Shower Arm
2 - 5 Gallon Jerry Cans
Action Packers
4 WaterBricks (https://www.samsclub.com/sams/wb-4pk/prod18440347.ip?xid=plp:product:1:1)
Raingler Nets
PHOTOS
Stock
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/480/18283541388_60092b3460_n.jpg) (http://"https://flic.kr/p/tRDVSd")
As he sits today:
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Post by: PainRoller on October 12, 2015, 09:03:31 PM
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Death Valley CHUSA Trip - Nov 2015
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Post by: PainRoller on October 12, 2015, 09:04:19 PM
Post by: FrankB on October 12, 2015, 09:22:34 PM
Post by: Alex on October 12, 2015, 09:30:13 PM
Post by: PainRoller on October 12, 2015, 11:04:32 PM
Next on list - install the front amber light bar to zee bumper. Hopefully that will be on by end of week.
And today I got notification from Hefty that the radiator skid is shipping tomorrow! So we can get that painted and installed before the November trip! WOOT!! ;D ;D
Post by: JFanaselle on October 13, 2015, 05:27:14 AM
Post by: Ghost65 on October 13, 2015, 08:28:45 AM
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Post by: RBduffer on October 13, 2015, 11:27:03 AM
Post by: xxSVxx on October 13, 2015, 11:42:08 AM
ZEEEEEEEEEEEEE JOAN WILDER?!?!?!? ZEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOVELISTE?
Post by: ultrapc40 on October 13, 2015, 11:58:59 AM
Post by: Ghost65 on October 14, 2015, 06:57:22 AM
ZEEEEEEEEEEEEE JOAN WILDER?!?!?!? ZEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOVELISTE?
Movie quote win!!!
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Post by: PainRoller on November 30, 2015, 08:48:16 PM
Ordered:
PRG OME Rear Suspension Lift Kit
Snorkel (can anyone say MOD DAY?!?!)
Front Runner SlimLine Rack (paging Dr. Toro) ::) ::)
So this basically covers all Birthdays and Christmas for the next 2 years....... :o :o
Post by: Jayrat on November 30, 2015, 09:26:37 PM
It's looking good, hope to wheel with you one day
Post by: Toro on November 30, 2015, 09:33:29 PM
Post by: PainRoller on December 01, 2015, 12:28:18 AM
Awesome Rig,
It's looking good, hope to wheel with you one day
Thank you - and Hell Yeah we need to go wheeling!! How have we NOT wheeled together yet?!?!?! Lookin' like the Winter Mojave Run will be our first.... ;D ;D
Post by: PainRoller on December 01, 2015, 12:45:04 AM
Time to fill the argon/co2 tank, buy some cut off wheels and flap discs.
If this is all for "our little friend" - then WOO-HOO!!!! I am giddy with anticipation!! ;D ;D
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Post by: Celt on December 01, 2015, 12:53:37 AM
Post by: PainRoller on December 01, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
I have Ol' Man Emu's coupled with 2" Calmini shackles. Together they have set the height about where I need it to be. In reality, I thought the OME's would be a little stiffer ride that they are but seem to handle the rocks easily. I've put them through their paces on some tough Moab runs, the John Bull here and a lot of desert wheeling all while carrying loads. I'm still running Bilstein 5200's which are working just fine. Eventually I will get something I can get a more downward articulation, maybe look into RadFlo's or similar. I think you will be very happy with those OME Dakkar's and you shouldn't bottom out so much now under load.
Thanks for the input! I'm really hoping our bottom dragging/sagging days are over (soooooo embarrassing)!! :o I still blame the BEANS!! ::)
Talked to Greg at PRG and he told us what he thought would work best with our current setup and camping needs. He pointed us in the right direction on the front suspension, so we thought we'd give him a go for the rear suspension as well.
We ended up with full OME Dakar Set, Adjustable Shackles, U-Bolt Flip Kit, and some Radflo Emulsion Shocks (completely rebuildable and revalveable). He is setting the shocks to what he thinks will be the best ride for us. If we don't like it, we just send them back to be adjusted.
But the Radflo's haven't shipped yet.
Time will tell if this works best for us. I'm really hoping so!! I'm super thankful for all the advice given us and the info available to help make an "informed" decision! SCCX ROCKS!! ;D ;D
Post by: PainRoller on December 04, 2015, 07:10:52 PM
Getting the suspension revamped this weekend. I hope it's all worth it and it does what we need.
Is it too much to ask to not ride like a dump truck empty and yet not be ass sagging when full? :P
I want it ALL - Overlander, Camper, Rock Crawler, and DD!! ::) ::)
Also, def want to try and get Cleghorn in before RTT goes back on...... :-*
Post by: FixItGuy on December 06, 2015, 04:36:53 PM
The rock factor of this group is amazing! ;D
Spencer, Danny, Steve, Jordan... Thanks very much for restoring the rear suspension and helping with the roof rack of the acclaimed Pepe.
The rear shocks were BLOWN - an accordion has more resistance than these did!
The springs and RadFlos rode niiiice on the way home. Didn't even miss the sway bar thingy ;).
Can't wait to get out in the dirt!!!
Post by: PainRoller on December 06, 2015, 04:47:34 PM
Saturday: Spencer helping with Front Runner Rack
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Thanks Spencer for coming over and helping! It's always a pleasure to hang out with you.
Post by: PainRoller on December 06, 2015, 05:01:06 PM
So awesome to hang out with Steve, Danny, and Jordan! Thanks for helping put the PEP back in PEPE! ::) ::)
Jordan...... O0 :-*
Stand Back! Butt Lift in Progress!
Operating Table:
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Surgery:
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Gun Show Expo:
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(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/778/23277363770_3212990623_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BsWzh7)
Calf Roping (Xterra Style) aka Teamwork:
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The THINK TANK:
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Seriously........thanks guys! YOU ROCK!! :-* :-*
Post by: steve c on December 06, 2015, 05:34:19 PM
Oh, and hanging out with buds!
Post by: Toro on December 06, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
Burrito lunch was well worth it.X2
Oh, and hanging out with buds!
I'll do ungodly things for Chipotle. Luckily all I did was hang out with some of the coolest peeps around and wrench.
Pretty legit Sunday as far as I'm concerned.
Post by: ultrapc40 on December 06, 2015, 08:52:30 PM
Post by: RBduffer on December 07, 2015, 06:16:20 PM
Post by: JFanaselle on December 07, 2015, 09:06:22 PM
Post by: PainRoller on December 08, 2015, 12:15:58 AM
No measurement for enhancements has been taken. I'm not interested in this metric until it settles a bit, has the roof rack and possibly the RTT on it. The ride quality is pretty stiff at this point. Not dump trucking it, but definitely stiffer than we are use to. The evaluation will be when it's fully loaded for the Winter Mojave Run. This will be the true test to see if this is our long term solution. ::)
Original Shocks were BLOWN!! And yes, before anyone asks, the rear sway bar was removed. 8)
As for the Front Runner Rack:
If Toro offers to alter a Front Runner Rack to make it a BAD ASS LOW RIDER - it seems prudent to take him up on said awesome offer. ;D ;D
Other considerations:
- Elongated rack equals more creative storage opportunities (we found the wetbox's usefulness narrow and limited)
- able to move the RTT up a skosh for more balanced load
- RTT will sit MUCH LOWER on the altered rack than the OME rack - affording better offroading and gas mileage (it sounds good, so it must be true!!)
- the FR modular rack system makes it easy to add extra goodies - kinda like a swiss army knife!
Post by: PainRoller on January 01, 2016, 01:03:02 PM
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Post by: ghenderson21 on January 01, 2016, 01:37:19 PM
Teasers.........
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:o :o :o
That Danny sure seems like a nice dude! Very stoked to see it on Pepe!
Post by: PainRoller on January 01, 2016, 01:52:11 PM
Post by: Toro on January 02, 2016, 08:08:57 PM
Post by: PainRoller on January 03, 2016, 11:58:57 AM
Awkward.....
Well NOW it's awkward..... :o
Post by: PainRoller on January 06, 2016, 04:52:21 PM
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These aren't the best pictures. I was going to wait to take better pics, but the weather is making that impossible.....
Front Runner rack sat approx. 1/2 inch lower than OME rack. I believe Danny reduced that height by an additional 4.5 cm.
The rack, as is now sits, is amazing! Thank you Danny for your talented work! :D
Post by: Toro on January 06, 2016, 05:09:21 PM
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I'm glad you like it.
I always get nervous when I work on stuff for others. I did yours a bit different than mine and I think yours came out better.
Post by: steve c on January 06, 2016, 05:31:00 PM
Looks GREAT! O0
Post by: PainRoller on January 06, 2016, 05:59:35 PM
Post by: PainRoller on January 28, 2016, 12:36:50 PM
With Stock OEM Rack:
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Now sitting lower with more badassery and cargo room:
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We gained so much cargo space and the rack looks amazing! The RTT feels really stable now.
Post by: PainRoller on January 28, 2016, 12:58:34 PM
Motorcycle Memorial:
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Random Tourists at Rainbow Basin:
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Post by: CVXTERRA on January 28, 2016, 05:48:04 PM
Post by: PainRoller on February 27, 2016, 02:12:14 PM
FiG got the Frankenstein OBA pieced together and mounted on Pepe! Thanks to both Ultrapc40 and Duffer for all the help and advice! O0
Getting the Air Tank setup and installed
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Post by: RikRong on February 27, 2016, 02:33:53 PM
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
Post by: Celt on February 27, 2016, 02:53:26 PM
Post by: PainRoller on February 27, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
That's nice.
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
Thanks man 8)
Are you guys planning on putting in some air lockers?
Nope! Mods are def slowing down for this year (buying a house and all......) O0
Post by: JFanaselle on February 27, 2016, 05:28:38 PM
Post by: FixItGuy on February 27, 2016, 05:46:17 PM
Post by: Celt on February 27, 2016, 06:30:35 PM
Looks really good! What size air tank is that? I have a 1 gallon aluminum one and it's too small. I've been thinking of upgrading to a 3 gal or something, or just ditching it all together. I feel like right now it just acts as a buffer between the air flowing from the compressor to the tires and might be slowing me down, since it doesn't hold much air. If I can at least hold enough air for one tire, I can let the tank refill while moving from one tire to another.
The good thing about having a spare tank is if you eventually get around to getting air lockers you won't have to leave your compressor on all the time when you want to activate them. In my opinion, even if you had a 3 gallon tank it wouldn't be enough to matter much when you are airing up 4 tires. In my opinion what matters most is the compressor itself when airing up the tires.
Post by: RBduffer on February 28, 2016, 07:33:13 PM
Post by: PainRoller on July 11, 2016, 01:04:05 AM
Well, crap......crap, crap, crap........CRAP!! OBA FAILED on "Randy's Most Excellent Run". >:(
Thanks Randy for getting us back up to pavement pressure. :-*
Failure resulted from heat related hose blowery.
As a result, FiG bought/installed new, improved high temp hose and a couple of Brass Ball Check Valves.
But because we have been known to OR solo, we didn't want to risk further failures. So FiG put the OBA thru its paces on a nice warm day (well over 100 degrees) to ensure no further failures due to temperature issues. And guess what? Both air compressors DIED. I just don't think those air compressors were up to the task, nor were they capable of sustained use - especially in a hot engine compartment.
So we move forward with OBA phase 2 (aka the high percentage play) :
ARB CKMTA12 '12V' On-Board Twin High Performance Air Compressor (I think both Danny and Joe are running with this unit?)
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After much discussion, we've decided to install this unit in the rear cargo (passenger panel). Reasoning: Less dust, no engine heat, no water crossing issues, better air circulation. Pretty much here, but positioned a little differently.... (this is an example, not our rig. In fact, it's Danny's rig ;))
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Will post updates, with pics, when unit installed...... O0
Post by: Celt on July 11, 2016, 06:28:00 AM
Post by: PainRoller on July 11, 2016, 12:12:42 PM
Those are really nice compressors and I'm sure you will be thrilled with it. The only input I have is putting it inside your vehicle can get noisy when it kicks on. I'm not sure if you are running lockers or not. If you aren't it's a non-issue because your air tank won't have a draw on it and the only time you will be using it is to air up.
Pepe ain't gots no lockers...... >:D yet >:D
LOCKERS?!?!?! WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' LOCKERS!!
(http://i.imgur.com/5UJ9CT7.gif)
Hahahahaha! Best movie quote EVER! Name that movie..... and if you are REALLY old, name the original movie (no google cheating). >:D >:D >:D
Post by: ghenderson21 on July 11, 2016, 12:27:44 PM
Exciting! Looking forward to seeing it! When I get back from Montana, we should check out Bee Canyon.
Post by: PainRoller on July 11, 2016, 12:34:33 PM
:o :o :o
Exciting! Looking forward to seeing it! When I get back from Montana, we should check out Bee Canyon.
Hell yeah! Have fun in the Big Sky county....it's gorgeous up there. :D
Post by: ghenderson21 on July 11, 2016, 12:41:17 PM
Hell yeah! Have fun in the Big Sky county....it's gorgeous up there. :D
I know! This is my 14th year up there, I try and go every year I can. Fly fishing, yellowstone, and now off roading??? What could be better!
and thank you! I'll take lots of pictures
Post by: JFanaselle on July 11, 2016, 01:11:34 PM
My ARB twin unit is mounted inside my front bumper. As Celt alluded to, the noise inside the cabin was an issue for me, especially since we bring our 4 year old son along for a lot of runs now. If he's asleep in his car seat or if it's too hot outside and he needs to stay in the rig while we're airing up, the noise would be a major issue.
Recently, one of my two motors stopped working. I had a great experience dealing with ARB to have it repaired. They sent me the parts to do it myself instead of having to ship the compressor to them and wait for them to fix it and send it back. When I popped the rear cover off to install the new parts, I realized that one of the O-rings failed and the motor assembly was full of mud. I cleaned it out with Lecro-motive electric parts cleaner, and installed the new thermal fuse they sent me and it's working like a champ. But I did send the photos of the compromised motor back to them and asked how we should handle it. They said I could send it back now or that they're ok with me just waiting until it's a problem in the future, even if it's out of warranty at that point.
Post by: Celt on July 11, 2016, 01:43:08 PM
Post by: steve c on July 11, 2016, 01:56:22 PM
You tryin to say I'm old if I watched Blazing Saddles when it was released? I might just need to get Mongo to come and pay you a visit on his "horse."
Yes.
Stoked for you guys! At this rate, I will never have to do OBA because all my cool friends will be sick and tired of waiting for me to air up with the Viar and just say back your truck up here and I'll do it for you.... My evil plans are coming together :D
Post by: PainRoller on July 11, 2016, 02:25:31 PM
You tryin to say I'm old if I watched Blazing Saddles when it was released? I might just need to get Mongo to come and pay you a visit on his "horse."(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29604-Mongo-only-pawn-in-game-of-lif-wNzq.gif)
Blazing Saddles was quoting an older movie..... ;) ;)
OBVIOUSLY you are not old enough (or a movie buff) to know the ORIGINAL movie quote!! >:D >:D
Post by: PainRoller on July 11, 2016, 02:37:56 PM
Yep, that's the compressor I'm running, as well as Toro and Motorpig77 (and I'm sure many more). I ended up in the same situation as you - Harbor Freight unit failed on me at the end of a trip. TWICE. Thankfully I had the replacement warranty. They replaced it the first time and I relocated it to a new spot (and installed a fan) to keep it cooler. Still failed after one tire the second time around. So I came to the same conclusion as you. HF replaced it again for me, and I threw it in the space under my cargo area as a spare/backup compressor.
My ARB twin unit is mounted inside my front bumper. As Celt alluded to, the noise inside the cabin was an issue for me, especially since we bring our 4 year old son along for a lot of runs now. If he's asleep in his car seat or if it's too hot outside and he needs to stay in the rig while we're airing up, the noise would be a major issue.
Recently, one of my two motors stopped working. I had a great experience dealing with ARB to have it repaired. They sent me the parts to do it myself instead of having to ship the compressor to them and wait for them to fix it and send it back. When I popped the rear cover off to install the new parts, I realized that one of the O-rings failed and the motor assembly was full of mud. I cleaned it out with Lecro-motive electric parts cleaner, and installed the new thermal fuse they sent me and it's working like a champ. But I did send the photos of the compromised motor back to them and asked how we should handle it. They said I could send it back now or that they're ok with me just waiting until it's a problem in the future, even if it's out of warranty at that point.
It's hilarious we went down the same path. Obviously we didn't learn from your history.... ::) ::)
Couple of things:
1. Yes - noise would be an issue if:
a. We had kids (I think Danny runs his in the rig? How does he do it?)
b. We had air lockers (which we don't..... yet)
I figure at this point er'body will be out of the rig airing up the tires, so noise shouldn't be an issue. If we get air lockers, it'll probs scare the shyte out of us if the compressor blasts unexpectedly in the cab...... LOL :o :o
2. We did NOT get the HF warranty - so they will just have to make nice paper weights. Maybe I can use them to bang tent pegs into the hard ground.... >:D
3. MUD - how did you get mud into them? >:D >:D Seriously, mud and water are a MAJOR concern for us due to our proclivity to seek out both. Ergo, in cargo area for safe keeping.....
Post by: PainRoller on July 11, 2016, 02:43:53 PM
Yes.
Stoked for you guys! At this rate, I will never have to do OBA because all my cool friends will be sick and tired of waiting for me to air up with the Viar and just say back your truck up here and I'll do it for you.... My evil plans are coming together :D
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Post by: Ghost65 on July 13, 2016, 09:30:22 AM
#because50
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Post by: PainRoller on July 13, 2016, 11:53:22 AM
Well done, sir ;)
Post by: RBduffer on July 13, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
Post by: Ghost65 on July 13, 2016, 05:03:35 PM
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Post by: Jayrat on July 13, 2016, 09:08:06 PM
Now I gotta download another movie. Thanks!You can download a movie, But you don't Text? :o
Post by: Celt on July 13, 2016, 09:27:00 PM
You can download a movie, But you don't Text? :o
He's talkin bout goin to Blockbuster and rentin him a videya cassette.
Post by: Sage Bromax on July 13, 2016, 10:43:53 PM
He's talkin bout goin to Blockbuster and rentin him a videya cassette.In Betamax
Post by: PainRoller on July 13, 2016, 11:10:49 PM
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TRUTH!!!! ;)
You guys are awesome! I love a good thread jack!! :D :D :D
Post by: RBduffer on July 14, 2016, 11:10:19 AM
Now the thread jack is over, back to Pepe.
Post by: Toro on July 17, 2016, 09:42:19 AM
They need to be in fresh air and away (relocted) from road grim. If they are breathing hot air or being dunked in mud, they won't be happy.
If the compressor is located up front and/or low on the rig, perhaps relocating the inlets to the air box might be in order.
Clean fresh air, on demand.
The compressor is loud....but it's not that bad. It is heavy and will need some sort of bracket to prop it up. It draws an @$$ load of current and will need serious power line to reach the rear. I ran 2awg all the way to the rear into an agu distribution block.
Let me know if you need a hand getting this going.
Post by: ultrapc40 on July 17, 2016, 01:28:16 PM
Post by: RBduffer on July 17, 2016, 02:19:31 PM
Wire gets longer
Resistance goes up
Voltage goes down
Amps goes up
Heat goes up
Performance goes down
Rinse, repeat
Post by: knightrider on July 17, 2016, 04:18:14 PM
I was contemplating this but my compressor only draws half of what the ARB dual does so it wasn't as big an issue to run 4ga to the rear. I am still planning on doing a 2nd battery to power the fridge and compressor but still in the design phase of my storage/kitchen/2nd battery solution.
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Post by: PainRoller on July 18, 2016, 02:47:41 PM
Great spot for the compressor. Although it's designed for it, I put it there to avoid the elements. The achillies heel in these systems are the air intakes/filters.
They need to be in fresh air and away (relocted) from road grim. If they are breathing hot air or being dunked in mud, they won't be happy.
If the compressor is located up front and/or low on the rig, perhaps relocating the inlets to the air box might be in order.
Clean fresh air, on demand.
The compressor is loud....but it's not that bad. It is heavy and will need some sort of bracket to prop it up. It draws an @$$ load of current and will need serious power line to reach the rear. I ran 2awg all the way to the rear into an agu distribution block.
Let me know if you need a hand getting this going.
Thanks! FiG installed the ARB this weekend. Love the awesome pic of your rig after camping! :D
We def did NOT run this heavy a gauge.... :(
Not that it's a secret that I enjoy spending your money. But I think with this set up, you might as well do a dual battery set up in the back and power the comp from the rear. Extra battery will give you that piece of mind when you guys are out alone
I'm aware of your delight in spending our money!! LOL Hopefully, I can reciprocate! >:D
And I really don't want an extra battery in the back, if that can be avoided.....
The extra battery is really only necessary for loads that you run when the engine is not running, i.e. camping lights, stereo or refrigeration. Otherwise your alternator will handle the load just fine (keep engine running when filling tires). But Toro is right, you need to run heavy wire for the extra distance.
Wire gets longer
Resistance goes up
Voltage goes down
Amps goes up
Heat goes up
Performance goes down
Rinse, repeat
We didn't think we needed an extra battery, either. Figured we'd keep the vehicle running to air up the tires, and the alternator should handle the load. How BAD is it if we ran the wrong gauge?
The 2nd battery would basically act as a big capacitor and would allow you to run smaller cable to the back of the vehicle. So I agree with putting a 2nd battery in the back near the compressor, even if it's a small one.
I was contemplating this but my compressor only draws half of what the ARB dual does so it wasn't as big an issue to run 4ga to the rear. I am still planning on doing a 2nd battery to power the fridge and compressor but still in the design phase of my storage/kitchen/2nd battery solution.
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You guys are KILLING ME!!! :'( :'(
Already pulled wire and installed ARB OBA (pic to follow)......
Obviously I'm thick headed..... I don't understand why an extra battery in the back would allow us to run smaller cable...wouldn't it need to be the same gauge?
And crapola, guys...... I think we ran too small a gauge...... ARB required 10awg, we ran 8awg (2 red, one black). Obviously we didn't accurately account for distance as we didn't run the formula.... :'(
I looked up the formula and basically we need to run 2awg for each wire?!?! The 8awg barely fit along the path we ran, how the hell are we supposed to get 3- 2awg wires to fit?!?!?! :o :o
Also, just because I'm having a gauge crisis, don't think for a second I don't super appreciate all your input. 'Cuz I do....
Post by: Jayrat on July 18, 2016, 08:31:52 PM
so many good suggestions
Post by: Celt on July 18, 2016, 08:39:48 PM
Thanks! FiG installed the ARB this weekend. Love the awesome pic of your rig after camping! :D
We def did NOT run this heavy a gauge.... :(
I'm aware of your delight in spending our money!! LOL Hopefully, I can reciprocate! >:D
And I really don't want an extra battery in the back, if that can be avoided.....
We didn't think we needed an extra battery, either. Figured we'd keep the vehicle running to air up the tires, and the alternator should handle the load. How BAD is it if we ran the wrong gauge?
You guys are KILLING ME!!! :'( :'(
Already pulled wire and installed ARB OBA (pic to follow)......
Obviously I'm thick headed..... I don't understand why an extra battery in the back would allow us to run smaller cable...wouldn't it need to be the same gauge?
And crapola, guys...... I think we ran too small a gauge...... ARB required 10awg, we ran 8awg (2 red, one black). Obviously we didn't accurately account for distance as we didn't run the formula.... :'(
I looked up the formula and basically we need to run 2awg for each wire?!?! The 8awg barely fit along the path we ran, how the hell are we supposed to get 3- 2awg wires to fit?!?!?! :o :o
Also, just because I'm having a gauge crisis, don't think for a second I don't super appreciate all your input. 'Cuz I do....
First questions first, is your Flux Capacitor set within spec for your year vehicle?
Post by: RBduffer on July 18, 2016, 10:26:48 PM
Duffman
Post by: PainRoller on July 18, 2016, 11:20:33 PM
Mike, gimme a call. Your not that far off.
Duffman
Mike? Who's Mike?!? Just kidding....I'll relay yer message to the aforementioned human..... (betcha didn't know I knew such a big word, now did ya?) O0
Post by: knightrider on July 19, 2016, 12:19:48 AM
8ga for a 30a compressor in the back of the vehicle is OK, not great but it will work, just not as well. The single ground for 2 positive leads is a big no-no, each positive needs it's own ground of equal size to the positive
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Post by: PainRoller on July 25, 2016, 09:55:46 AM
You would only need one 2ga cable run to the back, and it's probably easiest to run that wire along the underside of the vehicle. A ground can be run along side the positive as well, but a short ground to the body works just as well. Remember to still account for the length of the ground cable when calculating for voltage drop even if your grounding to the body.(just double the length of the positive cable)
8ga for a 30a compressor in the back of the vehicle is OK, not great but it will work, just not as well. The single ground for 2 positive leads is a big no-no, each positive needs it's own ground of equal size to the positive
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Thank you knightrider and Duffman for ALL the help :D
We appreciate er'body's input to make sure Pepe doesn't blow up on the trails!! O0
We took the following advice:
1. Ran a 2nd ground in parallel (2 red, 2 black - 8ga each)
2. Ran compressor for over 15 mins in 108 degree weather
3. Checked wires for heat
No extra heat, no compressor failures! We.Are.Good.To.Go!
So now..... PICS!!
FiG hard at work.
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Wire path:
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Compressor placement:
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ARB switch:
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Front and Rear Chucks:
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Still using Frankenstein tank:
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Post by: Jayrat on July 25, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Post by: PainRoller on July 25, 2016, 10:48:03 AM
Very nice, Pepe is looking good ,I need to get my @$$ in gear and do OBA
WORTH IT! 8)
Now that it's done, I wish we had tackled this project sooner. Feel so much more prepared for getting OR solo or in a group....
Post by: occupantX on July 25, 2016, 09:36:35 PM
Post by: RBduffer on July 26, 2016, 08:55:16 AM
Nice job!
Post by: PainRoller on January 30, 2018, 05:35:24 PM
Today's project: Assess, clean, and repaint skid plates.....
Pre- pictures (after removing 2 inches of Soda Lake Mud/Salt):
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I dubbed this one "Ol' Rusty"
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Used this product (1 Primer, 4 Black Paint):
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I only primed the really bad spots and all of Ol' Rusty. This paint is supposed to be good for up to 2000 degrees (no open flame), peel resistant, rust inhibitor, and Gas and Oil Resistant (The gas skid plate had some bad peeling and rust due to gas overflow and pluggage [that's a word right?!?!]). Paint went on really nice, except the last can, it was an a-hole.....
Final product - still wet but SO PRETTY!!!
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Post by: RBduffer on January 30, 2018, 08:56:58 PM
Well done.
Post by: Jayrat on January 30, 2018, 08:57:57 PM
I really need to get under Lucy.
Looks good Guys
Post by: steve c on January 30, 2018, 09:47:10 PM
Plus, it's a huge PITA. Out of sight, out of mind?!?!?! (I should really take them off, lol)
Post by: Celt on January 31, 2018, 05:44:33 AM
I'm scared to take mine off!
Plus, it's a huge PITA. Out of sight, out of mind?!?!?! (I should really take them off, lol)
If I took mine off I would probably need Thor's hammer and at least 4 or 5 guys our size to pound them back into shape so I could hopefully get them back on.
Post by: PainRoller on January 31, 2018, 09:00:09 AM
WOW ,that's scary
I really need to get under Lucy.
Looks good Guys
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I'm scared to take mine off!
Plus, it's a huge PITA. Out of sight, out of mind?!?!?! (I should really take them off, lol)
Not gonna lie, it was a PITA. But really interesting to see the damage on them. These skid plates have been worth their weight in gold. I've considered them cheap insurance to make sure we get off the trail in working order.
If I took mine off I would probably need Thor's hammer and at least 4 or 5 guys our size to pound them back into shape so I could hopefully get them back on.
They came off pretty ugly - they are already heavy on their own, but with the extra weight of the mud...... pretty sure the neighbors heard....
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Post by: PainRoller on February 12, 2018, 05:19:12 PM
I'm using this as an opportunity to tell y'all what our thought process is for dealing with space issues and seeing if you have some clever ideas that might help ass-well.
Issue #1: We can no longer carry our water in 2 - 7 gallon containers. These were on the rear passenger seat and created a weight imbalance and possible injury to zee dog. (And one is leaking, so it's a good time to re-evaluate)). We didn't want one large container (for multiple reasons).
Our solution: These WaterBricks (https://www.samsclub.com/sams/wb-4pk/prod18440347.ip?xid=plp:product:1:1)
Why? Stackable, able to redistribute weight around cargo area, able to have one readily available for use, make a wall out of them ;) .... (those Preppers have some good ideas....)
Issue # 2: We can no longer carry around our huge Pelican Cooler. That is now the dog's seating area. The Pelican is 35 lbs empty, so it's too heavy for top of vehicle when full.
Our solution: 2 Soft shell containers - specifically these:
Day or Weekend Trips: ENGEL USA Cooler Bag Backpack (23 Quarts) (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0179RBGWC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Longer trips (4+ days): Engel Coolers HD30 100% Waterproof Soft-Sided Cooler Bag (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B076J2S35D/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Why? (Actually, Celt started me down this $$ rabbit trail with his new cooler, I blame him! >:D )Compress as they empty, easier to squish into spots, still good after about 5 days, multiple solutions for different trip lengths.
But really this video sold me on them...... ::) ::)
https://youtu.be/MxPErxB3vY8
Issue #3 : Dog safety. We tie most things down, especially heavy stuff. But we don't want her roaming around the vehicle (during the day while traveling nor at night when sleeping - she likes to turn on the lights at night....) and we don't want anything to hit her in case of a roll-over.
Our Solution: Soft netting cage - front, rear and side. We purchased some cargo nets from Raingler to put up and create a barrier. (I'll post pics when installed).
But we are also wondering if we should tie her in somehow (in case of rollover).
Also considering moving the recovery items to the roof. One less Action packer in the cargo area..... Thinking about getting one of these FR Wolf Packs (https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/us/camping-gear/storage-bags/front-runner-wolf-pack.html)
Feel free to chime in with your thoughts and solutions. You guys are always creative!! O0
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on February 12, 2018, 05:32:01 PM
Post by: PainRoller on February 12, 2018, 05:34:18 PM
Maybe one of those long tube water containers that I've seen mounted on the side rack? I've seen them used as showers, but you could modify it as water storage. If I remember correctly, they hold 5 gallons. That would open up space for more gear/more room.
Side Racks? Pics please? If on the roof, we've decided not to add extra weight due to RTT
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on February 12, 2018, 05:36:43 PM
Side Racks? Pics please? If on the roof, we've decided not to add extra weight due to RTT
http://roadshower.com/
Post by: SCUBA_Dale on February 12, 2018, 05:37:17 PM
http://roadshower.com/
And I forgot words....I meant side of the rack, not side rack.
Post by: knightrider on February 12, 2018, 06:57:53 PM
https://www.kurgo.com/car-safety-harnesses/
Post by: Celt on February 12, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
Post by: PainRoller on February 12, 2018, 08:35:03 PM
http://roadshower.com/
Hmmmmm.....4 liters.... 1 gallon? I understand what you are saying about setting something like this up. But I think it would add too much weight to the roof. And def couldn't have all our water on one side....
They make harness that go into the seatbelt so that your dog is somewhat contained in a rollover.
https://www.kurgo.com/car-safety-harnesses/
Thanks, I'll check them out.
I'm all about the water brick.....Were you able to check them out how I used them on the Mojave?
Dude! I didn't know you rolled with WaterBricks! Where do you store them? We are thinking about stacking them behind the back seat -2 up, 2 across....
Post by: Celt on February 12, 2018, 09:47:21 PM
Dude! I didn't know you rolled with WaterBricks! Where do you store them? We are thinking about stacking them behind the back seat -2 up, 2 across....
I keep two in the X and store them along the passenger floor boards on both left and right sides. They fit perfectly with the seats folded down or up. In the Jeeps we stack them wherever is convenient, usually lashed down over the rear wheel wells. They have a ton of lash down options, stackable and are pretty rugged. I use the 3.5 gallon tanks and have a spigot (Highly recommended) which makes things much easier. When we get into camp I take one and shove it in between a tire and the wheel well and angle it slightly downward (Your clearance mileage may vary) where the top gets wedged securely holding it in place. A small bottle of Dr. Bronner's soap fits perfectly in the through hole for washing. We brought four of them for the Winter Mojave and came home with about 5.5 gallons for the three of us. The only potential issue I see is if you in below zero temps to keep them inside the X overnight to prevent freezing if they are left full. The lids are recessed so they won't easily get loosened or damaged and that carry handle makes them very easy to move around vs. a big bulky 5 gallon jug. Whoever came up with these is a genius.
Post by: PainRoller on February 13, 2018, 09:22:50 PM
I keep two in the X and store them along the passenger floor boards on both left and right sides. They fit perfectly with the seats folded down or up. In the Jeeps we stack them wherever is convenient, usually lashed down over the rear wheel wells. They have a ton of lash down options, stackable and are pretty rugged. I use the 3.5 gallon tanks and have a spigot (Highly recommended) which makes things much easier. When we get into camp I take one and shove it in between a tire and the wheel well and angle it slightly downward (Your clearance mileage may vary) where the top gets wedged securely holding it in place. A small bottle of Dr. Bronner's soap fits perfectly in the through hole for washing. We brought four of them for the Winter Mojave and came home with about 5.5 gallons for the three of us. The only potential issue I see is if you in below zero temps to keep them inside the X overnight to prevent freezing if they are left full. The lids are recessed so they won't easily get loosened or damaged and that carry handle makes them very easy to move around vs. a big bulky 5 gallon jug. Whoever came up with these is a genius.
Researched them online: https://www.waterbrick.org/
it's interesting to see the backstory, what they are doing, and how they are being used around the world.
Celt, you've sold me on these! Thanks :D
Post by: 0317 on February 13, 2018, 09:27:41 PM
Post by: PainRoller on February 13, 2018, 09:50:41 PM
Thx for that video. I have since added an Engel to my amazon amazon wish list.
You're welcome! Anything I can do to help you spend your money >:D ;) >:D
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Post by: steve c on February 14, 2018, 11:06:54 AM
Researched them online: https://www.waterbrick.org/
it's interesting to see the backstory, what they are doing, and how they are being used around the world.
Celt, you've sold me on these! Thanks :D
I think I might be sold, too. I've got the big blue aquatainer from the Wal*Mart. It's fine, but these are much more versatile.
Are they fairly robust? I'm assuming the plastic doesn't feel too flimsy?
Post by: Celt on February 14, 2018, 01:22:56 PM
I think I might be sold, too. I've got the big blue aquatainer from the Wal*Mart. It's fine, but these are much more versatile.
Are they fairly robust? I'm assuming the plastic doesn't feel too flimsy?
Steve, they are pretty tough and not flimsy at all. I'll have a few at the desert rendezvous if you want to check them out. You might need to hike out to the north 40 to find me though as I'll be with the rest of the anti-socials.