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Author Topic: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities  (Read 37378 times)

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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2014, 02:28:16 PM »
I know a ham radio operator that works for a Canopy Tour with all the necessary rappelling equipment.
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2014, 02:33:13 PM »
Word! I was hoping you'd chime in. Didn't want to volunteer you.

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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2014, 02:39:16 PM »
It sounds like a ton of fun! I just can't do it on a weekend... A Tuesday or Wednesday would be ideal for me.
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2014, 03:25:58 PM »
No fire on the trail. That will defiantly put a lot at risk.
  One harnessed, "Trained"  person repel down to the car. Secure it with winch lines from 2 rigs above.
   At JV, my winch Dead lifted a Gen 1 X about 30ft up a wall to a clearing above. Two 12k winches will do with out unnecessary time over the edge. (Me and Terry)
   We will need a third winch to secure the vehicle off a snatch block while the lifting winches reposition.
   The trailer rig will be positioned and carcus pulled up onto the trailer.
   The key will be obtaining permission to close the trail. Having Ham radio operators at the bottom of Burns Canyon, Rattle Snake ,Yucca (Pioneer Town)  and Big Bear will be key. We can communicate by repeater.
   I have maps and have thought this through.
  Perhaps Ranger Greg has someone in his arsenal that is experienced and can go over the edge.

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2014, 03:40:20 PM »
No fire on the trail. That will defiantly put a lot at risk.
  One harnessed, "Trained"  person repel down to the car. Secure it with winch lines from 2 rigs above.
   At JV, my winch Dead lifted a Gen 1 X about 30ft up a wall to a clearing above. Two 12k winches will do with out unnecessary time over the edge. (Me and Terry)
   We will need a third winch to secure the vehicle off a snatch block while the lifting winches reposition.
   The trailer rig will be positioned and carcus pulled up onto the trailer.
   The key will be obtaining permission to close the trail. Having Ham radio operators at the bottom of Burns Canyon, Rattle Snake ,Yucca (Pioneer Town)  and Big Bear will be key. We can communicate by repeater.
   I have maps and have thought this through.
  Perhaps Ranger Greg has someone in his arsenal that is experienced and can go over the edge.

That is a great idea.   Especially with the fire danger this year.  Actually, by my memory (As bad as it is) I didn't thing that incline the car was one was very steep nor long.  As a matter of fact, while touring 2N02 with Greg we stopped and a number of people climbed down to the car to check it out.  I swear Ghostx  was one.

But I like it, I will work with Greg about when it can happen, duration of road closures and how notification is done.   One thing though we might want to consider is it might be really great to have torches around once we get it out to cut it up for transport.

Let's keep going.   With all these great ideas.

I'm still proposing a combination checkout the CARS wheeling trip for the next 3-4 weeks.   If anybody is interested and have a preferred date let me know.
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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2014, 04:11:09 PM »
I can volunteer my winch, but it's only 8000lb....

Lemme know if it can be of use!

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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2014, 04:29:41 PM »
Do you have a photo of the car?

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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2014, 04:56:59 PM »
I vote for something around the 25th
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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2014, 05:30:13 PM »
I vote for something around the 25th

O March?   Hmm that could be fun for a look see.   You been to Pontiac Sluice before or Tip Top Mtn or Gold Mtn?
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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2014, 07:19:15 PM »
Do you have a photo of the car?


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Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities


That is a great idea.   Especially with the fire danger this year.  Actually, by my memory (As bad as it is) I didn't thing that incline the car was one was very steep nor long.  As a matter of fact, while touring 2N02 with Greg we stopped and a number of people climbed down to the car to check it out.  I swear Ghostx  was one.

But I like it, I will work with Greg about when it can happen, duration of road closures and how notification is done.   One thing though we might want to consider is it might be really great to have torches around once we get it out to cut it up for transport.

Let's keep going.   With all these great ideas.

I'm still proposing a combination checkout the CARS wheeling trip for the next 3-4 weeks.   If anybody is interested and have a preferred date let me know.

Yep...Doug and I climbed down and took photos of and assessed the wreck.  It is especially steep right at the top, with the biggest challenge being the road above is literally a one lane shelf road at that point in the trail.  

Definitely going to need some experience on the winches/blocks/straps to recover this.  

I'll offer any help I can, but will be the first to admit this job is a bit above my pay grade and experience.  :)
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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2014, 07:45:25 PM »
Thanks John for the photos and information.

Do you remember how far it was from the road to the Olds?
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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2014, 08:38:36 PM »
Why don't we just use a small generator and a sawzall to cut the body up and load it onto Duff and My trailer in smaller chunks. Hell, we can even section the frame once we hoist it to the top or bottom. My 1 Ton Military trailer also pivots as a dump bed.
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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2014, 08:24:29 AM »
How did that thing get there?

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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
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Re: Message from Greg 3/10/2014 RE:AAT weekend Camping opportunities
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2014, 09:38:13 AM »
Thanks John for the photos and information.

Do you remember how far it was from the road to the Olds?


Not sure...halfway point maybe?

Definitely aliens.
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