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Author Topic: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th  (Read 20651 times)

JFanaselle

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Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« on: May 03, 2015, 01:37:00 PM »
I'll be making a short overnight trip into the Mojave Preserve on Saturday May 16th and returning Sunday May 17th. The plan is to get started pretty early on Saturday and be home by mid to late afternoon Sunday.

This will not be a full Mojave road trip, but rather a short exploration of some specific areas. Agenda is as follows:

Meet in Baker on Saturday morning at about 9:15 or 9:30 am. Fill up the gas tanks and bellies with breakfast, grab any other provisions we need, and be on the road as a group by 10:00 am.

We'll head east into the preserve and spend the first day checking out petroglyphs, the lava tubes, and some old mines. We'll also make a stop in the "town" of Cima to see if the Cima Store is open. We'll camp at Sunrise Rock near Kessler Peak, which is a few miles northwest of Cima.

On day two, we'll head north from camp and check out the Evening Star Mine before heading east into an old mining district that is ripe with old buildings, mines and other sites to explore. We can spend as little or as much time as we want in that area, depending on everyone's schedules and how the exploring is going. If necessary, we can even break into an "early go home group" and "stay a little longer" group at the Evening Star Mine, as this will be an easy place to send some people back to the freeway from.

We'll air back up at Cima Road and take Cima Road back to the 15 then back on to Baker.

Because we don't have a permit, we'll need to cap this trip at 6 rigs max. Ideally, we need to keep it to a total of 14 people as well, but I'm hoping we can skirt past this a little as long as we don't have too many vehicles. That being said, 20 or 21 or people will probably present an issue, especially if we get rolled up on in camp by a ranger. 16 or 17 will probably be ok, so please consider this head-count restriction if attending this trip. I will be bringing my cousin and his wife along in their F-150, and Motorpig77 has already said he will be attending, so there's room for 4 more vehicles.

I am equipped with CB and HAM, and request that everyone be equipped with at least CB for the trip. It's a smaller group, but it's still important for us to be in constant communication at all times (and I'm making my cousin install a CB in his rig before the trip). Next post is for participants and food...
« Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 04:11:47 PM by JFanaselle »

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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2015, 01:37:16 PM »
As previously stated, this trip must be capped at 6 vehicles total, and as close to 14 people as possible due to the fact that we are unable to obtain a permit on this short of a notice. If signing up for this trip, please advise how many people are in your party, and please be considerate of the headcount. As with all trips, people can/do back out at the last minute for reasons beyond their control. Therefore, even though this trip is only 2 weeks away, don't hesitate to put your name in for the standby list if we reach capacity quickly.

Participants:

1) JFanaselle + Wife
2) JFanaselle's Cousin + Wife
3) Motorpig77 + 3
4) Alex
5) Scott307
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Standby List:

1)
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3)
4)


Food:

With this small of a group, we are doing an "every individual for themselves" meal setup. Bring whatever you need to cook/eat on the trail. This includes lunches and breakfasts. Please have already eaten breakfast before our 10:00 am departure from Baker. We'll have lunch on the trail on Saturday and dinner at camp. Sunday morning, we'll have breakfast in camp and lunch on the trail if we are out and about long enough.

Other trip preparedness:

1) If you plan to air down, please be prepared to air back up (aka - have a compressor with you)
2) The forecast is calling for rain on Thursday and into Friday. If the storm system slows down, we could have a rainy day on Saturday. The rain will keep the dust down and could keep the temperatures tolerable for us. That being said, remember that this is the desert and things change fast. Please be prepared for everything from extreme heat down to nearly freezing nights. We are not camping at high elevation, but it really could go either way.
3) Be sure to bring plenty of water. The general survival rule is that you should have one gallon per person per day of trip. For example - 3 people in your vehicle on a this two day trip means you should bring 6 gallons at a minimum.
4) As already stated, this trip is more about the stops than it is the journey itself. Please bring good shoes (boots, if you have them), a walking stick if you desire, and anything else you feel you may need. We will be stopping at several old mining sites that included old buildings, vehicles, construction equipment, etc. Also, it is prime season for snakes in this area. We won't be doing much "hiking," but will probably spend a good deal of time exploring around these old sites and snakes are a real threat, so be prepared and take the necessary precautions.

I will PM everyone who signed up to swap phone numbers, just in case we have issues meeting up on Saturday morning.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2015, 11:44:50 PM by JFanaselle »

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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2015, 04:23:23 PM »
in since i missed mojave.
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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2015, 07:27:07 PM »
Would love to, but I need my new suspension first
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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2015, 07:33:18 PM »
in since i missed mojave.


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Would love to, but I need my new suspension first

Are you sure? It won't be nearly as long distance driving on dirt as the last trip, and the parts we're driving are the better areas. None of the whoops. :)

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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2015, 07:34:01 PM »
I'm tentative. I may be getting sent out of town for work that weekend.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2015, 07:49:38 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2015, 08:18:55 PM »
Permits needed for groups of 7+.

http://www.nps.gov/moja/planyourvisit/permits.htm

Understood. Trip is capped at 7 rigs for this reason. I am guessing it's far too short of a notice to get a permit at this point, especially with they way they processed your application for the last run.

I was hoping to sneak by the 15 person limit.  As long as we don't have too many vehicles, I would hope a ranger wouldn't come up on us and start counting people inside cars.

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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2015, 08:31:09 PM »
I'm tentative. I may be getting sent out of town for work that weekend.

I put you into one of the slots for now. If we get to the point that we have a waiting list, you can re-evaluate your situation and determine if you need to back out or not. Hope to see you out there!

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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2015, 08:36:59 PM »
Hey Joe, If I understand Toro's math, 1-6 trucks=good, 7 or more=bad.
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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2015, 10:12:54 PM »
Haha, sometimes all it takes is a website and two very smart people telling me the same thing before I get it.  ;D

Ok, OP has been updated accordingly. We are capped out at 6 rigs and 14ish people.

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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2015, 10:59:14 PM »
Would this be a 2WD friendly trip? If so, I'm in.

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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2015, 05:57:41 AM »
To be honest Alex, I'm not 100% sure. We'll be going into several areas that I haven't been before. There won't be any significant hill climbing or anything, but soft sand MIGHT be an issue. Unfortunately, the preserve website simply advises that you should have 4 wheel drive to travel any dirt road wtihin the preserve - they don't do a good job of breaking down the areas where you really need it.

I would think you'd be ok, and I'm perfectly fine with you giving it a shot. We'll just be extra cautious of sandy areas.

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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2015, 07:59:58 AM »
Newer folks stepping up...way to go Joe and Erik! :)


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Re: Mojave Preserve - May 16th and 17th
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2015, 01:58:54 PM »
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