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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2008, 05:40:21 PM »
Geez i think im gonig to have to reconsider gonig on this trip if this is whats going to be happening. Come on guys im a kid. Your supposed to be role models :P

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2008, 09:13:07 PM »
I think i am in for a day trip
can someone post a contact number
Hey don't get me wrong or anything, I have been in the outdoors but... is it always this dusty????

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2008, 10:06:55 PM »
Chad, I've sent you a PM with my cell phone number.

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The rest of you, start acting like role models (whatever that means  ???) for young Bruce. The last thing we need is another juvenile delinquent.





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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2008, 04:39:36 PM »
The 22nd is fast approaching! We are still a 'go' for this event right?

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2008, 05:50:32 PM »
The 22nd is fast approaching! We are still a 'go' for this event right?

We're still on for the 22nd, on the route as described in the first post. 

Are you and Oz still planning on heading through the Drop-Off and meeting us in Fish Creek?  If so, I suggest you meet someplace other than the Visitor Center and save yourselves some time and driving. Even so, unless it takes a lot less time than I think, you'll likely intersect Fish Creek after we pass that spot heading up wash, so you'll probably want to turn left to find us, then left again into Sandstone Canyon. If one of you has a Ham Radio you might check with Paul or Bobby for a frequency, if not, just try to reach us on the FRS. I'll have my CB on Ch. 24 as well, but it doesn't work all that well.

Since we don't have an Xcursion Requirements thread on this new site yet, I'll mention of a couple of things (most of which should be pretty obvious) for those who have not been out with us before:

- We hang out at the meet spot for maybe half an hour (sometimes 45 min.), unless the trip leader is running late.
- Be sure to bring an FRS radio in working condition, with fully charged batteries. It's not a good idea to depend on someone having a spare to loan out. The channel is always the number of the month, with sub-channel always 24. November is the 11th month, so this run it will be Ch. 11, sub-channel 24.
- If you plan to air down your tires be sure to bring something to air them back up with. This trail is pretty easy, but there are some sharp rocks, and the ride is much smoother aired down.
- Even if you don't plan to camp you should always carry adequate water and food for more than one day. We'll be stopping for lunch, so a camp chair is nice to have.
- Responsible alcohol consumption at the end of the day in camp only, please refrain while on the trail. No illegal drugs. Don't forget, we're supposed to be role models for young Bruce.
- This run is pretty much entirely within the boundaries of Anza Borrego Desert State Park, where firearms are prohibited (best to check the State Park website for details).
- Anza Borrego DSP requires that all fires been in a metal container.  No fires on the ground at all.  I think at least one person is bringing a metal fire pit and a fireplace log or two.  This is not the place for a big bonfire unfortunately.

For those of you who have not been to the State Park Visitor Center, if you're coming in from Hwy 79 (from I-15) you'll want to turn left on S-2 a little after Warner Springs, then left again after about 5 miles on S-22 (Montezuma Road, through Ranchita) which will take you down the Montezuma Grade and practically right to the meet spot. Just follow the signs for the Visitor Center. Watch out for the Sasquatch in Ranchita.  Those of us coming from San Diego will be coming from the opposite direction on Hwy 79. If you're passing through the 79/S-2 area around 9:30 turn on your FRS and watch for us.

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2008, 08:35:56 AM »
For those of you who have children and take them on Xcursions,
do put helmets on your children?
Hey don't get me wrong or anything, I have been in the outdoors but... is it always this dusty????

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2008, 09:46:16 AM »
Hope to make it  ;D later in the day Sat due to 2x soccer finals.  Most likely after 2pm so maybe at camp, which is going to be where?

As far as the Pinyon Mt trails:  The squeeze before the drop off hill is super tight, even w/ the 1st gens some get body damage due to width.  With the wider 2nd gens, going to be really tough but possible to come through.  The drop-off's we did last time into sandstone cyn are in a different area.

I have some trails in mind for sunday; canyons up to the banner store

Brian

 

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2008, 12:30:56 PM »
Hope to make it  ;D later in the day Sat due to 2x soccer finals.  Most likely after 2pm so maybe at camp, which is going to be where?

As far as the Pinyon Mt trails:  The squeeze before the drop off hill is super tight, even w/ the 1st gens some get body damage due to width.  With the wider 2nd gens, going to be really tough but possible to come through.  The drop-off's we did last time into sandstone cyn are in a different area.

I have some trails in mind for sunday; canyons up to the banner store

Brian

 

Brian,

Not sure just where we'll be camping, probably someplace towards the mouth of Fish Creek, maybe not too far from the Wind Caves (that's about 4 miles in from the end of the pavement at Split Mountain Rd). That's just a guess, but from the last 2 or 3 trips we've done on this route we usually get to Sandstone too early in the day to stop, and there's not all that much room back there anyway if more than 3 want to camp.  I've seen some nice flat spots in Fish Creek that look like we could fit 6 or 7 trucks off of the main trail nicely, if they're not already taken.  I've done this route 4 or 5 times in the last 3 years, but always as a day trip. I usually get back to the trailhead (Split Mountain Road at the mouth of Fish Creek) just at dusk

Rodriguez Canyon up to the Banner Store would be fun on Sunday, all the more so because we just took off the skid plates on my truck.  It's been a couple of years, but I think there was only 1 rocky section towards the bottom, the rest was easy (well, except for that incident at the cattle guard with Tom). I'm not sure what it will look like now, with erosion after the fires.  We could also go up Chariot, but that was more of dirt road, but with some great views from the switchbacks.

As for Oz and Jesse, there are 2 ways into Fish Creek from S-2. Your right, I don't see Oz getting through the Pinyon Mt. Squeeze, especially now that I think his track might be wider. Not sure what Jesse is driving.  Could make for some amusing video, though.  I think they were thinking of the Diablo Drop-Off, which is the one you and Paul did that night after we all split up at the Mud Caves.  Where did you 2 wind up camping that night?


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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2008, 01:11:54 PM »
For a HAM frequency, I'm going to use 2M simplex -- 144.330

Call is KI6JVC
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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2008, 02:02:14 PM »
Oz and I won't be doing the Diablo Drop-off. We both want a more chill run, especially after our all night excursion through John Bull. Frank, do you mind PMing me your location? I'm in Sunny SD and would love to caravan up.

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #55 on: November 17, 2008, 02:36:50 PM »
Just to let everyone no i'm still a yes. Will be in Borrego by 8:30 so if anyone wants to explore a little i always do before a run. Also i do have a radio or an air compressor. If anyone could bring a extra radio that would be great. Also i don't plan to air down but if you don't mind me waiting to borrow a compressor thank fine.
Thanks
Bruce
PS: This is going to be my first trip without my father. Hes knows about the trip but i just wanted to let everyone know. I'm bringing to friends and we are planning to camp.

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2008, 03:13:12 PM »
Oz and I won't be doing the Diablo Drop-off. We both want a more chill run, especially after our all night excursion through John Bull. Frank, do you mind PMing me your location? I'm in Sunny SD and would love to caravan up.

PM sent.

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2008, 03:30:23 PM »
Got it! Can't wait for Julian Pie... :P

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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2008, 08:50:13 PM »
For a HAM frequency, I'm going to use 2M simplex -- 144.330

Call is KI6JVC

I'm taking off Friday so we'll camp over night as close to the trail head as possible and meet up Saturday morning. I'll be on ham radio too so I'll give you call from time-to-time as the meet time approaches. Looks like there's a campground close to the meeting place. The Arroyo Salado Primitive Camp Area is located just inside the park border. Vault toilets, no water. $5 a night.

We'll bring some Santa-Marina style tri-tip-kabobs for Saturday night.
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Re: Sat Nov 22: Fish Creek & Sandstone Canyon - Anza Borrego
« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2008, 09:45:31 PM »
For a HAM frequency, I'm going to use 2M simplex -- 144.330

Call is KI6JVC

I'm taking off Friday so we'll camp over night as close to the trail head as possible and meet up Saturday morning. I'll be on ham radio too so I'll give you call from time-to-time as the meet time approaches. Looks like there's a campground close to the meeting place. The Arroyo Salado Primitive Camp Area is located just inside the park border. Vault toilets, no water. $5 a night.

We'll bring some Santa-Marina style tri-tip-kabobs for Saturday night.

Paul,

Arroyo Salado is a nice camp site, but located on the other side of the Ocotillo Wells OHV Area from where we'll be. You can travel south through the various washes to get down to Hwy 78 near Ocotillo Wells, but it's hard to say how long that will take. 

The campsite right at the start of the trail is the Fish Creek Primitive Camp. Take Split Mountain Road south from Hwy 78 at Ocotillo Wells for about 8 miles, then enter Fish Creek Wash on your right at about the point where the pavement ends. The camp sites are up on a mesa on your left about 1.4 miles in. You can't really see them from the wash, look for a trail that goes uphill paralleling the wash, on your left.  There is probably some sort of signage, but I've driven right past it more than once.

We'll try to roll out from the meet spot around 10:30, it takes about 30 minutes to get to the trailhead, but I was thinking of stopping briefly to check out the new life size sculptures of the prehistoric animals that are out on Borrego Springs Road.

I'll trade you some apple pie for some kabobs.
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