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JeffBett

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Carrying Extra Gas
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:27:23 AM »
I am kind of surprised how little I can find on the subject but I am curious about all the options for carrying 5 or 10 gallons of extra gas.  I am sticking with stock rear bumper and of course want to avoid anything inside so that only leaves the roof.  I know the Rotopax options as I would want something more low profile the standing up Jerry Cans or taller plastic can.  I would probably want to siphon to the tank rather then unstrap, etc.  At one of the meet ups someone mentioned an option that was pretty low profile and they were selling it as an oil can but I did not get enough info to find it.  I wondered if anyone knows someone using the flatter marine/boat tanks.  Perfect seals are important as I would think a gas shower is not good.

Also, I only have the stock roof rack, and if I put something on the roof, what do people use to protect the roof from scratches, etc.  I need to nail this down for everything like firewood and storage bins as well.

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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 12:24:44 PM »
I store 2 3-gallon Rotopax on my Hep's Designs roof basket.  I know you said you just have the stock roof rack with no basket, but a basket will help a lot and you won't have to worry about protecting the roof.  If you don't want a basket, you can lay a tarp or towels down underneath whatever you put on the roof.  You can also get the Raingler roof net, but I heard it sags a little under load.  I can't speak for siphoning because I just remove my cans when I need to re-fuel.  Also, I'm not 100% sure how you secure a can to the stock bars.  I'm sure you could strap it, and I'm sure there's something out there that can attach to the roof rails themselves but I've never researched it.


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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 01:13:31 PM »
X2 or is it 3.....
   If you want low profile with the OE setup, the RotoPax systems is top tier.
   The reason there isn't much info out there is simply because there aren't many options. This goes for all vehicles and not just the Xterra. With out an OE outboard spare tire (and carrier) to work with, it's tough to make something work.

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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 01:21:44 PM »
BRR (before roof rack) I used a 4 gallon Rotopax on the roof, cinched down with bungees and a beach towel underneath. Simple, but effective.

With a siphon system, my concern would be leaks etc., but you're on the right track with roof stored fuel in a Rotopax.


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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 10:31:09 PM »
X however many for rotopax.  I carry 2, 4 gallon rotopax on the roof.  Rotopax does have a gas nozzle with a short(5ft) hose for filling vehicles, I bought one a few years back but have yet to actually try it out.  You would need to unscrew the cap to attach the hose so the rotopax would have to be upright, meaning it would need to be unstrapped, so kinda defeats the purpose.

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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2016, 12:34:23 AM »
I will at times put two of the fuel cans side by side along the rear crossbar on the rack. I have a couple pieces of 6" fire hose I lay down between the cans and the roof then ratchet strap them side by side without any difficulties. That setup has held up during a lot of wheeling without issues and super easy to siphon if necessary. They are the shorter but wider 5 gallon fuel tanks so they have a lower profile and are wider which helps to stabilize them. I also have but not installed yet a Dep Hep rack with an aftermarket custom dual top fuel rack for those cans which will hold them very securely.
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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2016, 07:21:06 PM »
I carry two 5 gallon metal gas cans in my rear storage (inside vehicle). Mounted and strapped down. Kept inside months at a time until swapped out for fresh fuel. Have never smelled gas or had any negative effects.
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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2016, 05:40:19 PM »
If the rotopax doesn't work for you for some odd reasoning, I used a Front Runner Dual Jerry Can mounted to a simple bracket utilizing the mounting holes of the roof basket tie down points. Yes, it makes the rig taller, but for long trips I need the extra two cans + the two cans on the rear bumper.

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Like was mentioned before, your best bet would be to Rotopax it to your roof using a basket mounted to your roof bars.
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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2016, 01:50:54 PM »
It's not that Rotopax would not work,  I just really wanted to know what other choices there was,  especially if there were ways that were not so damn expensive.  To carry 10 gal.  In Rotopax means I need a second mortgage.

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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2016, 02:04:00 PM »
That's one of the reasons I have not gone with Rotopax over the years. They are nice but seem to be very expensive and haul less fuel. I know a lot of guys really like them but I'm still very happy with my steel Jerry cans.
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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2016, 04:54:11 PM »
A 2nd for the inside the truck carry method if without a roof rack or bumper spot for it. Some (speaking on the general mind) wouldn't advise it because of possible leaking fuel and whatnot, but if you check the seals on the can and make sure they're airtight, and if you let any excess spilled fuel dry out before placing them inside, they'll be fine for a weekend trip for sure.
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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2016, 08:36:56 PM »
Rotopax are good if you need to mount them funny - in a funny position, a funny location, etc. Otherwise, your best bet is a good 'ol 5 gallon Jerry Can. I was running two of the same 5 gallon cans as Celt (the shorter, fatter style jerry cans) and loved them. They work well with a factory roof rack.

With my aftermarket rack, I have two 2 gallon Rotopax cans mounted to the front where the basket drops down. Nice thing about them is that they lay flat and don't stick up above the side rails of the rack. The bad thing about them is that they cost a fortune, they only hold 4 gallons, and they don't stand up on their own to be filled. Drives me nuts! On longer trips (Mojave Road, Death Valley, etc), I still have to bring one of my 5 gallon cans.

Those 5 gallon cans are sold at ORW. They call them "used oil cans," because they don't have the stupid EPA nozzles required to be gas cans. That makes them even better. :) I think I paid about $80 for the two of them together. Worth every penny.

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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2016, 08:16:57 AM »
funny thing is new good quality NATO jerry cans are around the same price as rotopax 4 gallon, yes they carry 20L or 5.2Gals but I was wondering where everyone was getting the good quality cans from for cheap.
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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2016, 01:58:54 PM »
A 2nd for the inside the truck carry method if without a roof rack or bumper spot for it. Some (speaking on the general mind) wouldn't advise it because of possible leaking fuel and whatnot, but if you check the seals on the can and make sure they're airtight, and if you let any excess spilled fuel dry out before placing them inside, they'll be fine for a weekend trip for sure.

In my case at the winter Mohave trail run, I kept two CARB approved 2 1/2 gal. cans inside the back area.  Between the heat and altitude radically changing the ambient preassures, I leaked about 2 tablespoons of gas inside my X.  This was enough to disolve the seems of my poorly placed air mattress and stink up my sleeping quarters,to the point that I had to self intoxicate with rum just to get asleep. 
On a good note the simi deflated mattress made a GREAT toboggan for going down our camp road O0

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Re: Carrying Extra Gas
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2016, 02:33:43 PM »
funny thing is new good quality NATO jerry cans are around the same price as rotopax 4 gallon, yes they carry 20L or 5.2Gals but I was wondering where everyone was getting the good quality cans from for cheap.
ChrisHaynes has a good link for cheap cans over on TNX, I'll have to take a look.

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