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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2016, 11:21:16 AM »
Hey PR, just a quick question. Why did you mount the CB in the console vs. the HAM? I might be answering my own question but it may be for cooling? My thinking was the HAM is a lot harder to program than just turning the dial on the CB to switch fixed channels.

We put the CB in first and wanted it hidden (just in case someone decided to break into Pepe just to take our very inexpensive CB  ::) ::)).  We thought we were all BA with our CB until we were out running trails with the group and realized it's limitations. Which meant an upgrade to Ham....

We strongly considered placing the Ham in the center console (the console has the holes to prove this (think swiss cheese)) but Jordan and others talked us off the "crazy ledge" and proved to us it would fit under the passenger seat.   The entire thought process is on this thread Yaesu FT-8900R

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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2016, 11:29:50 AM »
Gotcha, I was just more curious than anything and forgot about that other thread. On the last thread you were asking about which repeater covers where and knowing which ones to program in. Check out this link: http://www.sccxterra.com/smf/index.php?topic=3630.0 That will show you all the active repeaters in a given search area to include all the shadowing for many of them, not all. It also has a feature that will allow you to plan a trip and chronologically input repeaters to give you constant coverage. If you like it and have any questions about it let me know and I'd be glad to help.
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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2016, 11:41:52 AM »
Yeah, I saw that post this morning. Very cool!  Will def look into it and ask ya if any questions pop up.  :D

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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2016, 05:32:47 PM »
All good advice...to the OP:  we remove our HAM antenna for around town stuff, as it "mostly" avoids the unplanned detachment of parking garages etc.

The fulcrum of mounting options is height for reception vs. protection from detachment.  Not sure how old your Diamond is, but a lot of the newer options come with a fold over option when/if you are approaching low hanging fruit...trees.

Just another two Lincolns for your thought process.   :) :)

Oh...and then there's this:

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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2016, 05:45:59 PM »
Rick, you should be able to hit most repeaters on low power. The rule of thumb is to always try low power and then use high power if you NEED to. Your antenna is the most important part of your signal.

For RF radiation, mounting on the roof is the best but we're not cranking out the most dangerous frequencies at high power while on 2m and 440. That being said, all of my transmitting antennas are on my roof. It was easy to install multiple antennas, it's the best ground plane, and I know I don't have to worry about adding RF exposure to my 5 year old daughter.

As for CB or ham, there is no question about ham being the best out on the trail. It's great wheeling with other hams and not having to deal with the problems you get with CB. But, as Specter said in the first post, more off roaders have CBs then ham so you are more likely to find help if you have both. I'd recommend having 2m and CB on the trail if you go with single band radios. Of course, a multiband ham and a CB is better. I actually enjoy having CB when I'm in traffic so I can listen to the truckers talk about what lanes are blocked and alternate routes. I find that their info is still better than my smart phone's.
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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2016, 05:50:25 PM »
Oh yeah, I just run well tuned $15 quarter wave ham antennas that are super flexible. They fold themselves on the trail and in parking garages. I gave my diamond antenna to my wife. I keep a 5/8 wave dual band antenna in my rig, but I've never needed to use it.
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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2016, 06:33:45 PM »
A serious chunk of the people here have hams, but you can't bank on it for larger runs.  So most run some sort of dual setup.  For this last Mojave trip, the group loaned their HTs to the CB'ers to help them stay informed and also to show them how awesome hams can be.   ;)

Our setup is a Yaesu FT-8900R Quad Band Ham Radio w/ Tri Band Antenna and a CB Radio. 

I love the idea of the Yaseu being under the passenger seat.  Do you have any pictures of where you have the face plate and mic?  Right now my 8900 is screwed to the back wall of the hardbody and the face is in the little pocket under the aftermarket stereo.  (Which that is getting moved over as well)

All good advice...to the OP:  we remove our HAM antenna for around town stuff, as it "mostly" avoids the unplanned detachment of parking garages etc.

The fulcrum of mounting options is height for reception vs. protection from detachment.  Not sure how old your Diamond is, but a lot of the newer options come with a fold over option when/if you are approaching low hanging fruit...trees.

Just another two Lincolns for your thought process.   :) :)

Oh...and then there's this:

Joe's Amazing Linky

My antenna does have the fold over option and I used it once in a great while.   The link you put is freakin amazing..  It's pretty much what I envisioned but now seeing that someone has done it just makes it that much "gooder"  heh 

Guess I need to order the mounts and coax. Once I get it all then I'll install it.   Now I just need to figure out where to put my Yaseu detachable face and the cb unit. I don't want to use the center console. I actually am trying to figure out how to put a locking center console in there.  I need to be able to lock stuff up while I'm at work that I can't have on me  that I'd normally have when I'm not at work.


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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2016, 07:58:27 PM »
We mounted our face plate and mic up top to give that true 70's trucker experience  >:D



I'll try to get a pic tomorrow and post.  Right now the face plate is being held by strong velcro.  We wanted to make sure we liked its placement before putting a permanent plate up there.  It's working real well, so time to get a plate....

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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2016, 08:19:19 PM »


Rick, you should be able to hit most repeaters on low power. The rule of thumb is to always try low power and then use high power if you NEED to. Your antenna is the most important part of your signal.


Good point, I never really think about that for repeater use.

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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2016, 08:19:43 AM »
I simply use a magnet mount antenna only on trips as it would be to tall for my garage.  I just run the cable through the door jam and connect it to my antenna screw on the Baofeng.  Did a bit of testing this last weekend in Death Valley and the antenna gained up to 4-5 miles vs just the little whip antenna.

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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2016, 07:34:01 PM »
We mounted our face plate and mic up top to give that true 70's trucker experience  >:D

I'll try to get a pic tomorrow and post.  Right now the face plate is being held by strong velcro.  We wanted to make sure we liked its placement before putting a permanent plate up there.  It's working real well, so time to get a plate....

I'm interested in seeing that. I was thinking about putting mine up on the top so I can have the trucker experience. =)



If I go the CB route maybe I'll put it on the top and my FT-8900 in the radio pocket.. *Shrug*
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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2016, 11:41:58 AM »
IIRC...running high power on simplex is rough on the finals. Or is that just on my tubed vintage kit?


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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2016, 07:29:24 PM »
Could be your tubes. =) Hmm I miss HF...   

Oh that reminds me.. GeoYota,  I'm told you are the guy to talk to about stickers and you may know a Shirt guy..  (I'm looking to get some shirts for my hockey team made)
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Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2016, 12:37:01 PM »
Could be your tubes. =) Hmm I miss HF...   

Oh that reminds me.. GeoYota,  I'm told you are the guy to talk to about stickers...

Yes. I've been really busy with job changes and moving, so haven't been attending much to hand these out.

Hoping to change that, but if not I may split my cache of stickers with Jordan and Randy so they are more easily distributed amongst the newer "not a club-club" participants.


.... and you may know a Shirt guy..  (I'm looking to get some shirts for my hockey team made)




And I did, but you can probably find better deals elsewhere. His minimums are a little high for most. (30-40 shirts)


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Re: Antenna mounting question for ham AND CB radios
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2016, 05:32:03 PM »
First thing. Public thanks to GeoYota for the shirt and sticker..  Got em yesterday!

Also after reading a lot posts and checking out a lot of pictures of other peoples installs I've decided to set myself out like JFanaselle did.  I just finished ordering my trunk lid mounts and coax from AES.  I decided to go with both antennas being on the Diamond K400C mounts.  It was only $15 more then the other one but I wanted to make sure I got a heavy duty enough mount to hold both antennas.  Why not kill it when you can overkill it? =)

I'm 95% sure I'll just get the little baby Cobra 19DXIV and put it in the Center Console like everyone else .did..  If I do I'll run an external speaker.  I do plan on mounting the Yaseu 8900 under the passenger seat.  I did just find the windshield mount I used to use in my F250 so I may just use that..   For some reason my supermotors account isn't allowing me to upload images so I'll see if Tapa talk will let me..  But I'm trying to decide if I should suction cup it to the center of the windshield and the mic can just sit in the little pocket on top of the center dash and I can have the cable come from under the pocket.  Or I'm thinking of going to the left side and can put a mic mount on the dash behind the turn signal.   Hopefully I can get pics up to show what I mean.
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