Topic: Fallbrook to Hell's Kitchen - Sunday, 7/3/16

[PainRoller]

Did you have vehicle limit for this trip?  We are looking for an opp to get out and play.....

[Celt]

Did you have vehicle limit for this trip?  We are looking for an opp to get out and play.....

 As long as you bring me a 6-pack of semi cold PBR, I will talk with the powers that be and see if I can't slide you in somehow on the down low...........

[SCUBA_Dale]

Move me from tentative to confirmed.  My fiancé will be joining me.  Still not 100% on the father in law...

[RikRong]

This is shaking out to be a good run. 

[PainRoller]

As long as you bring me a 6-pack of semi cold PBR, I will talk with the powers that be and see if I can't slide you in somehow on the down low...........

 

[ghenderson21]

Put me down tentatively. Installed SPC arms and Radflos this morning. Alignment this afternoon, rear lift tomorrow, and hopefully sliders on by the end of the week.

Somehow I managed to get a weekend day off!

[occupantX]

Thanks for organising!
If the list is still open for late enrollment and you need an American African face  somewhere in the crowd...add me to the list, my Sunday just opened up

[JFanaselle]

Did you have vehicle limit for this trip?  We are looking for an opp to get out and play.....

PLEASE do attend. There are many people in this group who need proof that you guys are still alive.  Shall I put you on the tentative list, or the absolutely list?

Move me from tentative to confirmed.  My fiancé will be joining me.  Still not 100% on the father in law...

Updated!

Put me down tentatively. Installed SPC arms and Radflos this morning. Alignment this afternoon, rear lift tomorrow, and hopefully sliders on by the end of the week.

Somehow I managed to get a weekend day off!

Got you down as tentative. Perfect way to spend your weekend day off!

Thanks for organising!
If the list is still open for late enrollment and you need an American African face  somewhere in the crowd...add me to the list, my Sunday just opened up

You're in, sir.

Randy - this is quite the group we have in place so far. This trail better not be disappointing. 

[PainRoller]

Put us down as "in".  Only an act of God would keep us away at this point 

[xxSVxx]

Randy - this is quite the group we have in place so far. This trail better not be disappointing. 

Just watch out for that left handed turn once away from Randy's house...

[steve c]

FYI - From http://www.modernhiker.com/2016/06/27/where-do-i-need-an-adventure-pass-in-southern-california/

Southern California’s ubiquitous Adventure Pass system was dealt another blow this week, as the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals announced a long-awaited settlement in an ongoing legal battle between the U.S. Forest Service and Arizona hikers that was first heard in 2012.

According to the settlement, the Forest Service will no longer charge access fees for almost 400,000 acres of public land in the Southwest, and will only be allowed to charge fees near developed trailheads and other sites with six specific amenities: developed parking, a permanent toilet, trash receptacles, picnic tables, interpretive signs, and security services. In addition, the Forest Service has agreed that alternate parking 0.5 mile from each of these developed areas will be fee-free, so that users who simply want to utilize the trails in the area can park for free (assuming they don’t mind adding an extra mile of hiking to their trip).

The Forest Service has identified 66 specific sites that will currently require a user fee, and they will be installing additional signs marking the boundaries of these fee areas so that users know exactly where they can park their cars without having to pay. Signs are expected to be installed during the summer of 2016 and Kitty Benzar, the President of the Western Slope No-Fee Coalition (which advised the plaintiffs during the court proceedings), said “It is our understanding that there will be no fee enforcement at these sites until the signs are in place.”

In Southern California, the sites that will require a fee (once signs are installed) are as follows: (note that the settlement document did contain some typos in these place names. I’ve tried to correct the ones I’m familiar with.

Angeles National Forest / San Gabriel Mountains National Monument:

6000′ Day Use Area
Buckhorn Station Day Use Area
Burkhart Trailhead
Chantry Flats Day Use
Charlton Flat Day Use
Chilao Picnic Area
Colby Bridge Day Use
Delta Flats Day Use
Devil’s Canyon Day Use Area
Eagle’s Roost Day Use Area
East Fork of the San Gabriel River
Grassy Hollow Picnic
Icehouse Canyon Trailhead
Indian Canyon Trailhead
Inspiration Point
Islip Saddle Day Use
Jarvi Memorial Day Use
Mill Creek Summit Picnic
Millard Day Use
Mt. Pacifico Trailhead
North Fork Picnic
Oak Springs Picnic
Oak Springs Trailhead
Piru Ponds Day Use
Pony Park Day Use
Red Box Picnic
Skyline Park
Stonyvale Day Use
Switzer’s Picnic
Three Points Day Use
Upper Bear Creek
Vincent Gap
Vogel Flat Day Use
West Fork Trailhead
Wildwood Day Use
Wilson Saddle
Windy Gap (Little Jimmy) Trailhead
Cleveland National Forest:

Aqua Dulce Trailhead
Dripping SpringsTrailhead
El Cariso Picnic
Falcon Trailhead (at Blue Jay)
Holy Jim Trailhead
Hotsprings Trailhead
Laguna Trailhead
Maple Springs Trailhead
Meadows Trailhead
Pine Creek Trailhead
Pioneer Mail
San Juan Trailhead (at Blue Jay)
Tenaja Trailhead
Los Padres National Forest:

Piedra Blanca
San Bernardino National Forest:

Aspen Glen
Big Falls & Vivian Trailhead
Bonita Falls Trailhead
Children’s Forest
Cougar Crest
Falls Picnic
Grays Peak Trailhead
Heaps Peak Trailhead (No fee if you stay in your vehicle)
Humber Park
Juniper Point
Meadows Edge
Middle Fork
South Fork
Splinter Cabin
Woodland Trailhead
You can read the entire settlement here if you’re in the mood for legalese (PDF).

We have been following the case for several years and we think this is a fair compromise between people who utilize the developed areas of the National Forests and those who tend to stay in the backcountry. The new signs will hopefully alleviate some of the massive confusion that has resulted from the piecemeal solutions that have been in place thus far, and will ensure that the forests can continue having access to a badly needed source of revenue — that, fairly, comes from users in areas that tend to have a heavier footprint on the landscape.

 
This is from a hiker website, but seemed relevant to our discussion.
The way I read it, no adventure passes required as long as we don't park at a trail head? 
What if we drive through? 

[Celt]

FYI - From http://www.modernhiker.com/2016/06/27/where-do-i-need-an-adventure-pass-in-southern-california/

 
This is from a hiker website, but seemed relevant to our discussion.
The way I read it, no adventure passes required as long as we don't park at a trail head? 
What if we drive through? 

Passes...... we don't need no stinking passes.....

[EJsarus]

Its gonna be a no go for me. :/

[RBduffer]

That sucks Edwin, but we will be doing San Jacinto soon.

Sorry guys, I was in Palm Springs for the last 4 days, it wasn't hot enough here in Fallbrok

Thanks again Joe for taking point on this thread

So glad to see so many folks sign up.  We will not turn away anyone with a good attitude, all are welcome.  If you can't get your CB in time, don't worry we won't lose you, BUT, we will make fun of you on the air. 

Bring your own snacks just in case Hell's Kitichen isn't open, sometimes they keep weird hours, but we should be good.

I look forward to seeing you all, new and old friends alike.

[SCUBA_Dale]

Joe, please take the Father in Law off the tentative list...he can't make it.